.....Speaking of books, and to punctuate what you and Peter just said about collecting knowledge, I would like to share with those interested, the following purchases I made just yesterday.
1) Midget Submarines of The Second World War , Paul Kemp
2) Introduction to Naval Architecture, Gillmer / Johnson
3) Concepts in Submarine Design, Rydill / Burcher (This one was recommended by Sean some months ago)
As I have said before many times, I wish to see more successful PSUB's
Joe
From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Navy submarines vs amateur submarines vs turist submarines
Date: 26 May 2007 21:08 GMT
>
>Small military subs like the first Hollands, X-craft, Seehund, and smaller U-boats from WWI lime UC I, UB I class has a heavy influence on the Euronaut design.
>
>It s a bit of everything but include also a little of B.Franklin
>and other civil one. And yes the diver exit chamber is close
>to some offhore bells..
>
>Why use your own brain if you can read books ? :-)
>
>regards Carsten
>
>
>"Peter Madsen" <peter@submarines.dk> schrieb:
> > Sirs,
> >
> > I have followed the argument on diver lock outs...and feel that the subject "what works for the amateur submariner" deserves a comment.
> >
> > I my humble opinion - being an amateur means you have a small budget and limited resources in terms of just about anything. Being successful here means making the best of it by using your brain instead of the money you don´t have.
> >
> > I think amateur submarine designers should make use of the all knowledge that they can get hold on - including how the navy does things. After all the majority of submarines are weapons, and the do things that are just fantastic by any standard and kill surprisingly few crew members in the process.
> >
> > Personally - this is a question of taste of cause - I design submarines as "civilized" navel boats - same propulsion - same shape - same color - same buoyancy control - same sensors. All of cause in a "slightly" simplified form. The only non - naval stuff on Freya, Kraka and UC3 is the viewports. Having made just over seven hundred dives in these boats - I feel that I can say the concept of copying and simplifying navel principles of submarine operation works.
> >
> > Most psubbers seam to lean against making a small Alvin or a personal tourist submersible - and this may be the very best solution if you can find a way to deploy it to the diving location. I can certainly see the idea of a K250 - or the Nemo - or Sgt. Peppers - but the operational problem with these boats remains how to get out there. The Euronaut - and Anders Jung´s Marlen and my own Kraka - and UC3 are all examples of psubs with a navel submarine in the stomach...and if I did not think that was a feasible way of doing it - I would not have welded on the bow of her today...
> >
> > Don't say we can´t learn from the navy...but don´t forget that at the end of the day what fascinates people about building submarines at home...may be very different - and there is no correct way - only options...
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
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