Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new battery / AIP

[Charles Perkins <chuck@memetech.com>]

Very interesting!

Does anyone know how much one of these pretty little units costs?

And Peter -- I follow both your submarine construction and your  
submarine operations with great interest. I hope to learn from your  
example and build a sub of my own eventually. I dream of cruising in  
to Copenhagen to meet up with UC3 and the Euronaut. I will require a  
long-distance boat for that trip though... Denmark is a long way from  
California.

Thank you for sharing!

Chuck

On May 14, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Peter Madsen wrote:

> The most sucsesfull application of AIP today is in the Royal  
> Swedish Navy. They operate a stirling motor fueled by liquid oxygen  
> and fueloil.
>
> It is posible to pruchace a 800 watt 12 volt batteri stirling  
> gennerator called "Wispergen" It is low noise - like a refrigeator  
> - and can be used to form the core of neuclear Psub. It consumes  
> 600 gr. fuel pr hour - and consumes about 2.5 kg oxygen to do so.  
> This is close to ten times as weight efficient as conventionel  
> lead / acid batteries.
>
> Only liquid oxygen gives the AIP consept meaning -
>
> AIP is as high tech as neuclear propulsion - and about as dangerous  
> to the sub - but yoou dont need strategic and political bad materials.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Huffman
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new battery
>
> Just a thought, but there is always AIP.  Could it work for a psub?
>
> A nuclear powered submarine, is just a modern application of steam  
> power.  Nothing fancy about that.  The Royal Navy and the French  
> Navy experimented with steam powered submarines in the early 20th  
> century. It was not untill the USS Nautilus that steam powered took  
> hold.  The major thing that happened was the replacing of how heat  
> was generated.
>
> James
>
>
> Brian Cox <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> New Battery audio:   lots of power, no heat problems,  high power  
> transfer rate,  they have working prototypes.  The next best thing  
> to nuclear power in my opinion.
>
> http://www.podtech.net/nextgear/technology/1700/altairnanos- 
> revolutionary-battery
>
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Cox
> To: Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 06:39
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new battery
>
> New battery technology looks promising:
>
> http://www.altairnano.com/documents/NanoSafeBackgrounder060920.pdf
>
> Brian
>
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