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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] do a serious concrete sub project



"I think the way you ought to approach this is just the way you are doing it
now.  On your own with small orders from people who have a specific need or
desire for such a product."

.....and the best way do do that, is to rent booth / floor space at the Miami International Boat show.
 
Joe




From:  "Jon Wallace" <jon@psubs.org>
Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:  <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject:  RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] do a serious concrete sub project
Date:  Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:27:40 -0500
>Wilfried,
>
>My two cents...for what it's worth...
>
>I like your energy and sense of adventure.  However, I think your potential
>market for a commercial venture is a lot less than what you might be
>thinking.  I think your market is limited to high-end private ownership.  Of
>that group, you need to find people that live next to a big enough body of
>water to support a "yacht", that actually want to own a yacht, and that want
>a yacht that travels underwater as opposed to on top of it.  On top of that,
>your sub will not be attractive to people who are not fairly stationary
>geographically since your sub can be difficult and expensive to transport.
>I think you need to be careful of terms such as "submarine yachting" because
>"yachting" gives an impression of spacious luxury that can transport you
>long distances within reasonble durations of time.  I don't think you will
>be able to deliver on any of these expectations.  And lastly, I think most
>people who yacht in the traditional sense do so because they want to be out
>and about in the open air and open sea.  Except for a cramped conning tower,
>your sub will force the occupants to remain inside.  Looking out portholes
>will be novel at first, but I suspect fairly boring in short time.  Assuming
>your sub could cruise the caribbean in a manner that made it attractive from
>a time perspective (how many knots do you expect your sub to cruise at?),
>there won't be very much to look at out of the view ports of a moving sub
>that is in 500 feet of water.
>
>Now, I'm not saying you can't make money with your idea, I just think from
>an investor perspective I don't see alot of practicality with it, which
>means I'm not likely to risk my money in it.  By the way, I liked the idea
>of cruising the caribbean, getting exposure, and taking orders, and I'm sure
>you won't mind that being MY job if I do invest in your business..right?
>
>I think the way you ought to approach this is just the way you are doing it
>now.  On your own with small orders from people who have a specific need or
>desire for such a product.  You get to build them a custom vehicle with
>their own money up-front that THEY take a risk with, and then build upon
>that experience for the next order.  If I'm wrong and your product does have
>commercial value to a lot of yachters, word-of-mouth advertising from your
>first one or two deliveries will get you a lot more exposure than a set of
>investors who are going to be after you from day one to show profit for your
>work.
>
>My suggestion is to forget about the investors at this point and concentrate
>on taking out some advertisements in BOATING MAGAZINE, or some Yachting
>publications, and see what the response is.  If you can show a record of a
>handful of orders, you'll probably get investors coming to you rather than
>you looking for investors.
>
>Jon
>
>
>
>
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