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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] through-hulls




Hi...
        The pressure balance on the system could be a double acting Bimba (they have SS cylinder that won't rust) with hydraulic fluid on one side and open to the outside on the other.  If the rod comes out on the hydraulic side then the hydraulic system pressure will always be slightly higher (the difference in areas between the piston area on one side and the piston area minus the rod area on the other) in the steering / plane operating hydraulics than the outside water pressure.  The system would be self compensating as to depth (pressure).  You have to compensate both sides of the system.  I have used Bimba's to pressure compensate systems to pressure as high as 2500 psi in the past.  You have to have a large enough cylinder volume to allow temperature compensation for the system volume change.  

However an actuator can likely be selected that can be submerged (the seals will work both ways) and then compensation is unnecessary.  They won't be rated for this but will work.  

Jay.










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Joe, Vance, and all. I haven't found the old catalogue but I'm looking on the net for these things.
As to the pressure and water, the set-up I saw was not designed for a wet application. Without a pump, the internal pressure of the system isn't much, and in fact wouldn't be anything until you turned the wheel to move the rudder. But it IS a closed system. I'm thinking of two ways to keep the water out.
First, add a small pressurized oil tank to the system, and with a scuba regulator, keep the pressure in the tank slightly above the water pressure ( at varying depths/pressures )
As the system is a closed loop, the differential pressure across the positioner would be the same as if there was no external pressure ( sea water )
The other idea would be to put the positioner in a compensated container with the shaft extending through a seal. Again, you'd need to have a scuba regulator or other air line keeping the pressure inside the container slightly above ambient.
The positioner is nothing more than a double acting hydraulic cylinder. They run about $100 or so, and are easy to get, modify, fix, and replace.
The master cylinder is pretty much the same thing, but it had a rack-and-pinion set-up on it that moved the piston back and forth, moving the fluid from one side to the other through the positioner.
I can't remember what the cost on this thing was, but it was pretty cheap.
I'll keep looking, and maybe call a couple of hydraulic equipment suppliers to see if they have any leads.
Frank D.
 


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