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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] do a serious concrete sub project
do a serious concrete sub project
Building something like a submarine with your own money and a vage hope that
"somebody might buy" it later is bad business practice.
Especially if you think about who would buy a submarine - military? - certainly
not they build their own - scientific? - they would like one but have no money
etc...
So as a concequence most private submarines end up in a backyard although they
may work very well.
What you have to do is come up with a proposal and then see if you get a
customer. If you get a customer you start to build.
To do that seriously you have to do something like a "pilot project" that shows
that your concept can work. Well i did that - the information is there on my
website [http://tolimared.com/submarine] - so far i got interest for a deep
diver for salvatage for a submarine yacht with yachting purpose and for a
stationary hull with big viewports for tourist purpose. Which one i will build
depends on which project comes up with a solid funding.
I really would like to find Investors for a project like this:
Build a hull, staff it out with a diesel, basic dive capability, and fine
leather interior - then yacht around in the caribbean and collect interest and
more construction orders. - Finally found a specialized shipyard where concrete
hulls of different size and purpose are built in series...
But i can not lift that as a single person. I need people with financial
capability to share that VISION and to put "risk money" to make it work. - Can
we get money out of the concept of "Submarine Yachting" - of course - can it be
a business - of course a tremendous one - but who believes in it and is willing
to put money - the tecnical problem is solved - the business part is still
waiting...so this finally does not break down to solve a relative simple
tecnical issue - submarines are around for at least 200 years... it is a
question of making work the business part.
Kindest Regards,
Wilfried
> Wilfred,
> Why don't you build a sub for a purpose to make money and then
> sell the sub and the business you have created all together.
>
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <clientes@tolimared.com>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 13:53
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] do a serious concrete sub project
>
>
> > Hello Carsten
> >
> > ..."If you find a client which want to pay the project - I am in the next
> day"...
> >
> > - Here we come to the central point - if you want to atract investors to a
> > project you need to have yust that - a project that makes sense - that has
> > potential to make money - because that is what investors look for.
> >
> > Investors are not interested in a submarine they are interested in your
> plan
> > what you do with your submarine to make money.
> >
> > They are not interested in a diver lockout they are interested in you
> capacity
> > to reach something you can make money with.
> >
> > They are interested in the business aspect of your operation.
> >
> > So if we can put together what is the business of having a deep diver with
> live
> > aboard quality for 4-5 persons - and visualize it - we can share this
> VISION
> > with potential investors and get the money for the project - the money is
> out
> > there - but we need a project to atract it.
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> > Wilfried
> >
> > > > Carsten what would you want to do with a euronaut2 if there where not
> such
> > > > narrow limits of size and budget ? - are you willing to explore how to
> push
> > > the
> > > > limits of size budget and depth by far further ? -
> > > >
> > > > Kindest Regards
> > > > Wilfried
> > >
> > > Wilfried.. A more reasonable answer: If you like to make a study for a
> sub
> > > faster and deeper than anything else available (without nukes) than
> looking
> > > for a combination of concrete hull with Lithium Ion Battery or/and
> Fuelcell
> > > drive in combination with the new high efficency electric motors. Safe
> some
> > > money on the hull budget and spend it for the hightec drive..
> > >
> > > Go with the idear that the water tanks, hard and soft but also the gas
> and
> > > fuel storage tanks are just caves in the concrete and make the hole
> concept
> > > integral.
> > >
> > > regards Carsten
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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