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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]Big concrete Subs - vision - finance -
Wilfried.. sometimes the last 20 years I offer private sub concept to peoples to make some money. I had one real client, and three fouls. And millions discussion with people which likes submarine but have not the money for it. But the one real investor quit because he learned how many rules he has to follow if he want to use the sub in a german shipping river..
If you bring a real investor give me a call. If his real money is forward on my account - so there is visible that he is real.. I will start real design work next day..
:-))
best regards Carsten - and you are right - the yard I am working for can do a Euronaut-Project in less than a year or so.
<clientes@tolimared.com> schrieb:
> Big concrete Subs concept - finance -
>
> Hello Carsten,
> ...Its a big project for a
> single person ...
>
> One of the things i have learned as Manager in Multinational Companies is that
> if you have a project that has a potencial there is always the money out there
> to make it happen.
>
> So i am sorry to say it so directly but the weakness of euronaut project is not
> engineering - it is the fact that you try to lift it all as a single person.
>
> If you wait to get old and retired to take your dreams a step further you
> probably will get just that - old and retired - .
>
> I would like to suggest such a project to possible investors right now - would
> you join in such a project ?
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Wilfried
>
> > Hi Wilfried.
> >
> > Maybe I build a sub after Euronaut - maybe not.
> > At the moment the progress is slower than expected..
> > I am far behind my timetable. Its a big project for a
> > single person and even just a cold nose as today keep you back one week.
> >
> > I have a concept for a cheap, big, fast deep diving concret sub.
> > As Psub. A 6000-9000 feet diver. Some 700 sm range dived at 7 knots in any
> > deep.
> >
> > The problem is that I have to go to work 5 days a week and have only the
> > weekends for diving and subs expeditions - and some hundred seamiles around
> > my country the sea is not deeper than 900 feet. A deep Euronaut can easy
> > reach.
> >
> > So, this big concrete sub deepdiver will be intressting for me in the time
> > area were I retired from work in about 20-25 years. Thats a good time for a
> > new sub because Euronaut gets also older during this time. Maybe I can sold
> > the Euronaut during this time to build the big concrete shark.
> >
> > So I think I will start planing this big concrete sub in about the years
> > 2020-2025. Concrete is maybe the only way for me to see the deepsea.
> > Steel/other metals gets to strong and/or to expensive.
> >
> > My new homepage is under conctruction and will be later a page with drawings
> > concept of unuseual submarines like gliders or deep concrete subs. We can
> > discuss this concepts than.
> >
> > Wilfried I think if you want to sell concrete subs hull it
> > will be wise to make some FE-Study before.
> >
> > Something like:
> > - boat under 2000 full pressure loads and deloads.
> > - boat under full load for weeks
> > - boat from zero load to full load in very short time
> > - boats diver chamber under 2000 loads in both directions
> > - impact studys at harbour speed, impact studys at full speed
> >
> > I think to get a good quality concrete sub the total boat has to be designed
> > with all troughhulls and anything has an influence to the hull before the
> > first concrete will be mix. This is complete differnet from steel building
> > were you can start with something and end with a complete other result - like
> > Nemo shows.
> > On a steel sub you can work more or less with the trial and error methods.
> > Easy to fix with a grider, a torch and a welder. On an concrete deep diver
> > this will be much harder I can imagine..
> >
> > best regards Carsten
> >
> > <clientes@tolimared.com> schrieb:
> > > Guys - this thread is becomming a little frustrating for me...
> > > I am trying to put together the concept of a autonomous submarine ... looks
> > like
> > > there is nobody interested in share that concept...just interest in diver
> > > lockouts...shaft seals...
> > >
> > > Last and final from me to diver lockouts... if carsten who is naval
> > engineer and
> > > has a lot of his private money and years of brainwork inverted in this
> > stuff
> > > said that his euronaut has whatever dive ability - for me there is no
> > question
> > > about that - as i belive that carsten knows what he is talking about...
> > >
> > > Carsten what would you want to do with a euronaut2 if there where not such
> > > narrow limits of size and budget ? - are you willing to explore how to push
> > the
> > > limits of size budget and depth by far further ? -
> > >
> > > Kindest Regards
> > > Wilfried
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I dont agree.. That's was true in the 70ies.
> > > >
> > > > Euronaut will fit for saturation diving. But without diver ropes and
> > pipes.
> > > > No hot water for the divers suit.
> > > > With a new type of double-rebreather. And Argon in the suits.
> > Undepentadly
> > > > from the submarine-system. And that makes the remaining system inside the
> > sub
> > > > pretty small.
> > > >
> > > > :-o Regards Carsten
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com> schrieb:
> > > > > A complete system for sat diving is a pretty large system. And again
> > > > > if you thinking commercial then a submarine can no longer compete
> > > > > against a surface vessel. The number of crew during sat diving is
> > > > > large. And all of the requirements for backup and rescue is
> > > > > tremendous.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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