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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]saturation diverlockout



privately im sure you could do this but obviously you could never conform to imca specs or have all the safety backup and topside support of a full scale sat spread.


From: clientes@tolimared.com
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]saturation diverlockout
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:31:37 -0800

HAHA
Thougt that good old carsten has his way to figure out how to make things happen in Euronaut if he makes a claim... surely the good man has spotted a couple of sites to visit with euronaut where other people think this can only be reached
with a major saturation dive operations...

This is like the suborbital flights - NASA does it for BILLIONS a couple of
clever Guys made it for a couple of hundreds...

Remains the LIMBO question - how low can you go...privatly...and euronaut based...

Good Luck Carsten...

Kindest Regards
Wilfried





> Yes Sir ! But what will be happend when your breathing Helium gas
> goes only really short way to your back-tornister in insulate hoses, refresh
> with o2 and clean from Co2 - in a chemical cardtridge which produce also
> plenty of heat and than back to your lungs ? Any cycle again and again ? ;-)
>
> No hot water can be lost - beause there is no hot water. Hand and feetss can
> be heated additional electrical by high power lithium ion batterys if
> required.
>
> Why they dont approved Argon for insulate the suit ? Many trimix and cave
> diver use it without problems.
>
> A Diver ? Well a diver is somebody with a copper helm and lead-shoes..
>  very heavy and only on the seabottom.
>
> regrads Carsten
>
> "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com> schrieb:
> > Yes, this is true if you wanna go sat diving on your own. But you will
> > never be able to reach the criteria for diving in for example the
> > north sea for the Norwegian gouverment or any of the oilcompanies up
> > here. Argon in dry suits has been tested and found not approved years
> > ago. When diving on trimix the gas is reclaimed, treated and heated
> > befor it goes back to the divers. Actually the system these days are
> > much more complicated then back in the 70.
> > The biggest problemsduring sat diving is loss of hot water. Because of
> > the Helium you breath you can risk freeze to death long time before
> > you can get rescued if the sumarine looses its power.
> >
> >
> > On 2/14/07, MerlinSub@t-online.de <MerlinSub@t-online.de> wrote:
> > > I dont agree.. That's was true in the 70ies.
> > >
> > > Euronaut will fit for saturation diving. But without diver ropes and
> pipes.
> > > No hot water for the divers suit.
> > > With a new type of double-rebreather. And Argon in the suits.
> Undepentadly from the submarine-system. And that makes the remaining system
> inside the sub pretty small.
> > >
> > > :-o Regards Carsten
> > >
> > >
> > > "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com> schrieb:
> > > > A complete system for sat diving is a pretty large system. And again
> > > > if you thinking commercial then a submarine can no longer compete
> > > > against a surface vessel. The number of crew during sat diving is
> > > > large. And all of the requirements for backup and rescue is
> > > > tremendous.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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