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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]Big concrete subs. with no limits



Wilfried.. if there is no limits of size and budget 
I will order an Akula without wapons but with stronger 
titan hull on a russian shipyard.. 

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/akula-DNSC9600520.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/971.htm&h=565&w=851&sz=120&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=XGzfQkHS8p0zYM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=145&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dakula%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DG

Or this US- Version of an Akula is also nice: 

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/perimeteraction_akula_refit.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.shipschematics.net/cgi-bin/startrek/federation.cgi%3FPerimeter&h=642&w=503&sz=44&hl=de&start=19&tbnid=vaJOz1O2kW4ytM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=107&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dakula%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DG

Wilfried, I think with a crew of more than say 4-5 persons thinks startet to get a little more complicate. If it is nessesary to pay your crew - thinks starts to get a little out of Psubs disscusions - right ?

The decision about the hull construction material is less than 20 % of the disscussion of a big autonomus submarine. Only one point of many others. 
If you find a client which want to pay the project - I am in the next day ! 

:-0 regards Carsten - sorry but there are clear limits.. 


<clientes@tolimared.com> schrieb:
> Guys - this thread is becomming a little frustrating for me...
> I am trying to put together the concept of a autonomous submarine ... looks like
> there is nobody interested in share that concept...just interest in diver
> lockouts...shaft seals...
> 
> Last and final from me to diver lockouts... if carsten who is naval engineer and
> has a lot of his private money and years of brainwork inverted in this stuff
> said that his euronaut has whatever dive ability - for me there is no question
> about that - as i belive that carsten knows what he is talking about...
> 
> Carsten what would you want to do with a euronaut2 if there where not such
> narrow limits of size and budget ? - are you willing to explore how to push the
> limits of size budget and depth by far further ? - 
> 
> Kindest Regards
> Wilfried
> 
> 
> 
> > I dont agree.. That's was true in the 70ies. 
> > 
> > Euronaut will fit for saturation diving. But without diver ropes and pipes. 
> > No hot water for the divers suit. 
> > With a new type of double-rebreather. And Argon in the suits. Undepentadly
> > from the submarine-system. And that makes the remaining system inside the sub
> > pretty small. 
> > 
> > :-o Regards Carsten 
> > 
> > 
> > "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com> schrieb:
> > > A complete system for sat diving is a pretty large system. And again
> > > if you thinking commercial then a submarine can no longer compete
> > > against a surface vessel. The number of crew during sat diving is
> > > large. And all of the requirements for backup and rescue is
> > > tremendous.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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