From: "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:51:27 -0800
Yeah. Mind you I'm jealous but don't tell anyone.
BTW, what's your neck of the woods?
Rick L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> My thoughts exactly Rick. It gets up to 33 degrees fahrenheit here
and
I think it's tee shirt weather.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>
> Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:34:02 -0800
> >POOR POOR BABY!!! 52 degrees!!!!
> >
> >Watch it , Joe, you have CANADIANS and SCANDINAVIANS on this list
;-)
> >
> >
> >Rick L
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
> >To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> >Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:17 AM
> >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> >
> >
> > > Brent,
> > >
> > > The 42" hull is based on an offhand comment by Vance regarding
minimum
> > > comfort. But I look at Persistence and her trailer and see that
extra
> >weight
> > > as a big minus. Still, too tight for changing clothes though.
> > >
> > > Incidentally, it was 52 deg in Miami the other day, we broke out
the
> >parkas
> > > and lit the imitation fireplace! :), My Mango tree got a little
wilted.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > >From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:16:48 -0800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yo Joe,
> > > >
> > > >What happened to having a 42" hull??? : )' Are you going to
build
a Sgt.
> > > >Pepper II? I'd like to see Carsten put on a dry suit inside of
Sgt.
> >Pepper
> > > >and then try to get it off with out a knife. It would be so
funny
he
> >would
> > > >need to put it on You Tube .com. Enjoy your warm weather Joe,
it's
so
> >cold
> > > >here the grizzly bears moved into my garage to finish
hibernating.
My dog
> > > >don't like it at all.
> > > >
> > > >Brent
> > > >
> > > >"What can I say, I'm a submarine half full of the good smoke,
kind
of
> >guy."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:43:06 +0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Brent,
> > > > >
> > > > >That is too too funny! I don't know about you but, my arms need
to
> > > > >flail in a 6' diameter whenever putting on a wet suit! :)
....and
> > > > >getting the thing off....a 12' diameter!!
> > > > >
> > > > >Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
> > > > >>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > >>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > >>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > > >>Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:37:45
> > > >-0800
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It always seemed to me that a PSUB should have dry suits
and/or
wet
> > > > >>suits, along with SCUBA gear for all on board for leaving a
flooded
> > > > >>sub. Of course putting on wet suits in a small sub is a
challenge
> > > > >>but it can be done. I wish the military subs of the world
would
> > > > >>design there submarines so that all personnel on board can
leave
> > > > >>the sub in a dry 1 ATM escape pods. The escape pods can be
inside
> > > > >>the subs hull just like the triton missiles are, but with
allot
of
> > > > >>hatch and other systems of course. Even if the submarine is
one
> > > > >>it's side the pods would be designed to still able to exit.
I've
> > > > >>been thinking about a PSUB design were the main pressure hull
can
> > > > >>detach from the main supper
> > > >structure and float to the surface, if
> > > > >>your supper structure is entangled or other issues.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Brent
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
> > > > >>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > >>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > >>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > > >>Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:03:25 +0000
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Oystein,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We have discussed this at length, and is always worthwhile as
a
> > > > >>discussion to be revisited. The general consensus is as you
say,
> > > > >>self rescue is the best course.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>You simply need to be able to get out of a flooded sub.
Saturation
> > > > >>issues aside for
> > > >a moment, even here in Florida, exposure can be an
> > > > >>issue...in Norway....I don't even want to think about it!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>A non-flooded casualty (entanglement), with sufficient reserve
and
> > > > >>surface communication, you might evaluate the situation for
> > > > >>external help if risk is negligible (depth?).
> > > > >>
> > > > >>The marker buoy in my case is to serve two purposes..1) keep
> > > > >>vessels clear of the downed sub 2) mark it for recovery.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Joe
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>From: "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com>
> > > > >>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > >>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > >>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > > >>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:00:23 +0100
> > > > >>
> > > > >Have anyone considered the probability to be rescued in case of
> > > > >>an
> > > > >> >emergency in submerged stage ? A distress buoy can help
getting
> > > > >> >attention, but what else? I think submariners in psubs needs
to
> > > > >>be
> > > > >> >able to rescue them self. Up here in Norway, we have no
rescue
> > > > >> >vessels
> > > > >> >for quick response in matters like this. Looking back to the
> > > > >>rescue
> > > > >> >of
> > > > >> >KURSK, we are talking about days before rescue arrives.
Thoughts
> > > > >> >anyone?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >--
> > > > >> >Vennlig hilsen
> > > > >> >Øystein
> > > > >>Skarholm
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
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