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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress



Brent,

The 42" hull is based on an offhand comment by Vance regarding minimum comfort. But I look at Persistence and her trailer and see that extra weight as a big minus. Still, too tight for changing clothes though.

Incidentally, it was 52 deg in Miami the other day, we broke out the parkas and lit the imitation fireplace! :), My Mango tree got a little wilted.

Joe

From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:16:48 -0800



Yo Joe,

What happened to having a 42" hull??? : )' Are you going to build a Sgt. Pepper II? I'd like to see Carsten put on a dry suit inside of Sgt. Pepper and then try to get it off with out a knife. It would be so funny he would need to put it on You Tube .com. Enjoy your warm weather Joe, it's so cold here the grizzly bears moved into my garage to finish hibernating. My dog don't like it at all.

Brent

"What can I say, I'm a submarine half full of the good smoke, kind of guy."






From:  "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject:  RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date:  Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:43:06 +0000
>
>Brent,
>
>That is too too funny! I don't know about you but, my arms need to
>flail in a 6' diameter whenever putting on a wet suit! :)   ....and
>getting the thing off....a 12' diameter!!
>
>Joe
>
>>From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
>>Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:37:45
-0800
>>
>>
>>It always seemed to me that a PSUB should have dry suits and/or wet
>>suits, along with SCUBA gear for all on board for leaving a flooded
>>sub.  Of course putting on wet suits in a small sub is a challenge
>>but it can be done.  I wish the military subs of the world would
>>design there submarines so that all personnel on board can leave
>>the sub in a dry 1 ATM escape pods.  The escape pods can be inside
>>the subs hull just like the triton missiles are, but with allot of
>>hatch and other systems of course.  Even if the submarine is one
>>it's side the pods would be designed to still able to exit. I've
>>been thinking about a PSUB design were the main pressure hull can
>>detach from the main supper
structure and float to the surface, if
>>your supper structure is entangled or other issues.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Brent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
>>Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:03:25 +0000
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Oystein,
>>
>>
>>
>>We have discussed this at length, and is always worthwhile as a
>>discussion to be revisited. The general consensus is as you say,
>>self rescue is the best course.
>>
>>You simply need to be able to get out of a flooded sub. Saturation
>>issues aside for
a moment, even here in Florida, exposure can be an
>>issue...in Norway....I don't even want to think about it!
>>
>>A non-flooded casualty (entanglement), with sufficient reserve and
>>surface communication, you might evaluate the situation for
>>external help if risk is negligible (depth?).
>>
>>The marker buoy in my case is to serve two purposes..1) keep
>>vessels clear of the downed sub 2) mark it for recovery.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From:  "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com>
>>Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>Subject:  [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
>>Date:  Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:00:23 +0100
>>
>Have anyone considered the probability to be rescued in case of
>>an
>> >emergency in submerged stage ? A distress buoy can help getting
>> >attention, but what else? I think submariners in psubs needs to
>>be
>> >able to rescue them self. Up here in Norway, we have no rescue
>> >vessels
>> >for quick response in matters like this. Looking back to the
>>rescue
>> >of
>> >KURSK, we are talking about days before rescue arrives. Thoughts
>> >anyone?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Vennlig hilsen
>> >Øystein
>>Skarholm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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