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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ANDROS VISIBILITY
Jay,
If you have local information on the practicality of logistics for
diving a K250 there I'd be really interested as well. For instance, if I
shipped Snoopy, should I do so with the trailer and can you think of
places to launch the sub or keep it while it's out of the water? I took
Snoopy to Florida last year and had a hell of a time due to the length
of tows and the currents. My conclusion is for Southern Florida I'd need
a sub with a surface speed of 4 knots and an endurance of 10 miles, and
that's just not anything a K-250 can ever do. I've been in communication
with Karl Stanley about shipping a sub in Roatan, and while the
logistics there are ideal, shipping costs to get there are probably much
higher than to your neck of the woods.
Thanks,
Alec
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
Perkel
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:42 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] [was Malcontention] ANDROS VISIBILITY
Hey there Rick,
Ya want some motivation?..... I'm sure Jay will give you the local scoop
but, to wet your appetite a bit...here's a description from a local dive
shop........
"The Andros Wall begins around 70-90 feet and plunges down 6,000 feet
into
the Tongue of the Ocean. Some of the best spots on the Wall are: Hanging
Gardens Wall, a pristine spot at 100 feet that drips with sponges, sea
whips, and gorgonia; Giant's Staircase, at 120 feet where the Wall drops
down by giant steps into the 6,000-foot abyss. Turnbull's Gut, where
divers
slip into a crevice at 90 feet and shoot down to 120 feet and out over
the
Tongue of the Ocean; Whip Wire Wall, a multi-level dive where the top of
the
wall starts at 80 feet and as you go over at 120 feet the sheer wall
begins
with whip wire corals protruding.
No where else can you feel so clearly the grandeur of this underwater
Grand
Canyon. All these dives are No Decompression multi-level dives."
......so get your butt down here, and I'll paddle across the Gulf Stream
with
you!
Joe
PS Vancouver may be more "Sub Silicon Valley" than "Sub Mecca" eh?
Looks
like Minnesota is where the pilgrims end up though, I believe 5
operational
psubs.
>From: "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>
>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] [was Malcontention] ANDROS VISIBILITY
>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:25:08 -0700
>
>Hi, Jay - you're welcome.
>
>Communication is tough enough face-to-face. Email seems to have a
>built-in
>FUBAR factor. You've always struck me as a diplomatic sort and have
often
>rolled my eyes at how you could possibly ignore the latest infraction,
>perceived tempest, etc.
>
>Andros: I used to read Skin Diver when I was a boy and would come
>across
>articles on Andros. I understand the vis is exceptional. I'm loosely
>planning a trip down to Florida and would like to trailer my sub (to be
>built this winter - I hope!!). I dove the Keys and fell in lust with
warm
>water, cool creatures and NO @#%$%!@ ICE!!!
>
>I'm wondering if shipping it from Florida to the Bahamas would be worth
>it.
> It's decades since I've read up on the area. To my recollection,
you've
>got great wall dives, great reefs, great vis., etc. How's the shore
>camping?
>
>Any technical thoughts on subbing in the Bahamas? At the moment I'd
>be
>happy with a Lonely Planet tour book. But, again, it's a dream of mine
to
>spend time down there. A father/son trip would be fantastic.
>
>What do you think in terms of u/w attractions in the shortest distance?
>My
>sub is designed for touring and will be able to transit without surface
>support.
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>Rick L
>Vancouver
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay K. Jeffries
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Malcontention
>
>
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for your support! I have to consider the source of this one
>individual that has it in for me. Just reread what I wrote and thought
it
>was very tactful (and humorous at times)J Maybe I should have just
been
>blunt and stated that if you are constantly getting attacked on the
list by
>a lot of different members, you should either quite or realize that you
are
>the problem and not the list.
>
>
>
> Bill has in the distant past made some good contributions; then he
>just
>got out in left field and has been a constant irritation each time he
>surfaces just when we think he is really gone. He has been a source of
>conversation off list and at Raystown. I just don't have much patience
>with him anymore.
>
>
>
> Take care,
>
> R/J2
>
>
>
>
>
> Jay K. Jeffries
>
>
>
> Natura nihil fit in frustra
> - Nature does nothing in vain
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Rick and
Marcia
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:38 AM
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Malcontention
>
>
>
> Jay, I don't remember ever having seen you this close to losing your
>temper. ;-)
>
>
>
> You are respectful, indeed. I hope the offending party takes this
>into
>account should wound-licking come back into vogue.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, I'd like to support all sub related contributors,
>especially the ones who consistently remain on topic.
>
>
>
> If there's a need to go off-list, please ask. I'd love to share my
>political views on Bill's "invention" but . . . well, OFFLIST!!!
>
>
>
> Rick Lucertini
>
> Vancouver "subMecca", Canada
>
>
>
>
>
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