From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Repeating History
Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:51 GMT
There are some differences..
I was with Sgt.Peppers in lake Hemmoor at 180 feet last saturday and play
with all fife thrusters. If you turn the bow horizontal thruster to right
and the stern one to left the craft turns on his own axis. Put if you stop
the thrusters the boats stops turning very quickly. A spacecraft will not
stop.. If you use the vertical thruster to make a loop - it will not work
because of the stabilty of the boat - a spacecraft will makke this loop.
But alone in a small oneman sub in 180 with Emile some hundert foot away on
the surface awaiting the next ride is more or less the same feeling as in a
mercury craft some tenthousands miles away from Houston..
There is no need for a night dive - just go deeper.. :-)
best regards Carsten
"Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com> schrieb:
> Well put Patrick.
>
> I mentioned once to another member precisely this point. Piloting a
> neutrally buoyant submersible with thrusters, is the closet an
earthbound
> individual can ever come to maneuvering a spacecraft in zero g. That is
off
> course, in a zero current condition, which would make say 'docking'
somewhat
> tougher.
>
> Add a night dive, in clear seawater on a calm day, maybe some
> phosphorescence to round out the experience.
>
> Joe
>
> >From: "Patrick" <pat_man_ta@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> >Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Repeating History
> >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:11:11 -0400
> >
> >One of the factors that has fueled my interest in subs has been the
> >inner/outer space aspect.
> >
> >There's no realistic way for me to get into space and poke around at
this
> >point.
> >There IS a realistic way for me to get undersea and poke around with
some $
> >and some hard work.
> >
> >Conclusion: build/obtain submarine
> >
> >~patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Cox
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Repeating History
> >
> >
> > Gene,
> > It seems to me it is a whole lot more interesting in
"inner
> >space" than in outer space. I've thought of doing a short drift
gondola
> >type sub with our current that is off our coast here. The current runs
> >about 2 to 4 knots.
> >
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gene Locke
> > To: PSUBS Mailing List
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 19:01
> > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Repeating History
> >
> >
> > Hey Folks.
> >
> > I've been on this list for so long I can't remember if I've ever
> >submitted before. Anyway, the important part of this is a
> >question/challenge.
> >
> > I was researching the PX-15 project, the Benjamin Franklin, also
known
> >as the Gulf Stream Drift Mission, and had a thought. Considering that
> >space exploration is once again taking off, so to speak, I find it
> >suprising that nobody has reviewed the whole undersea/space analog
mission
> >template.
> >
> > I'm a bit of a space nut as well as being into submarines, so
maybe
> >I'm just seeing things from a different perspective. Seems to me that
> >revisting the mission model for the PX-15 could provide some valuable
data
> >for both manned space flight and marine science.
> >
> > Just wondered what everyone here thought of that.
> >
> > Gene R. Locke
> >
> >
> >
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
>
>
>
>
>
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