From:  "Jay K. Jeffries" 
    <bottomgun@mindspring.com>
Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject:  Re: 
    [PSUBS-MAILIST] ambient ballast control
Date:  Wed, 1 
    Mar 2006 09:25:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Typically the main ballast tanks should be flooded fully and the flood 
    valves at the bottom of the tank left open (or in the case of a K-250, the 
    bottom of the tanks are open).  To dive the hard (rated to max. 
    pressure sea and/or blow system failure) is then flooded to get either 
    neutral or slightly positive trim.  Submergence is accomplished with 
    dive planes and drive down with the main motor(s) (and in the case of a 
    K-350, additionally using the auxilliary motors).  Being slightly 
    positive will benefit in the case of a loss of power as the sub will slowly 
    return to the surface on its own.
    
     
    
    A normal surfacing evolution is accompllished by powering to near the 
    surface and them blowing main and trim ballast tanks thus conserving the 
    limited supply of air carried aboard.  Only in an emergency are main 
    and trim tanks blown at depth (and then dropping the emergency weight if 
    neccessary).
    
    R/Jay
-----Original Message----- 
From: "Dan H." 
    
Sent: Mar 1, 2006 8:39 AM 
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
    
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ambient ballast control 
    
    Joe,
    
     
    
    What I was questioning is the need for a 
    pressure relief in a closed ballast tank where the tank is built strong 
    enough to withstand the system pressure.  If your tank is strong enough 
    to withstand the system pressure, then it won't blow.  
    
     
    
    As was pointed out to me by Jay, it's still 
    possible to get a regulator failure, and unless the ballast tank was built 
    to SCUBA tank pressure, it could possibly be ruptured if that 
    happened.  Good point.  My sub is a one atmosphere 
    design.
    
     
    
    That is the one scary thing about an open 
    ambient sub.   Then deeper you go the more air it takes not to go 
    any deeper.  A situation that can be a runaway disaster.  
    
    
     
    
    I don't know about an ambient sub, but 
    in my one atmosphere, when diving, I keep my main ballast tanks 
    totally full of water , vents opened, and my main ballast tank, 
    adjusted to neutral buoyancy of the sub and all valves shut.  
     
    
     
    
    Dan H.
    
     
    
    
    
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