A normal surfacing evolution is accompllished by powering to near the 
surface and them blowing main and trim ballast tanks thus conserving the limited 
supply of air carried aboard.  Only in an emergency are main and trim tanks 
blown at depth (and then dropping the emergency weight if 
neccessary).
R/Jay
I might add that Jay's point be well taken.  Boyle's Law will put 
anyone who blows a tank u/w in shallow doo-doo, especially in an ambient 
boat.  Dropping a CONTROLLED amount of hard ballast will assure a 
reasonably safe ascent.
 
If you can run with a snorkel you can use blowers or bilge pumps to 
preserve your air as Jay mentioned.
 
Rick L
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ambient 
  ballast control
  
  Typically the main ballast tanks should be flooded fully and the flood 
  valves at the bottom of the tank left open (or in the case of a K-250, the 
  bottom of the tanks are open).  To dive the hard (rated to max. pressure 
  sea and/or blow system failure) is then flooded to get either neutral or 
  slightly positive trim.  Submergence is accomplished with dive planes and 
  drive down with the main motor(s) (and in the case of a K-350, additionally 
  using the auxilliary motors).  Being slightly positive will benefit in 
  the case of a loss of power as the sub will slowly return to the surface on 
  its own.
   
  A normal surfacing evolution is accompllished by powering to near the 
  surface and them blowing main and trim ballast tanks thus conserving the 
  limited supply of air carried aboard.  Only in an emergency are main and 
  trim tanks blown at depth (and then dropping the emergency weight if 
  neccessary).
  R/Jay
-----Original Message----- 
From: "Dan H." 
  
Sent: Mar 1, 2006 8:39 AM 
To: 
  personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ambient 
  ballast control 
  Joe,
   
  What I was questioning is the need for a pressure 
  relief in a closed ballast tank where the tank is built strong enough to 
  withstand the system pressure.  If your tank is strong enough to 
  withstand the system pressure, then it won't blow.  
   
  As was pointed out to me by Jay, it's still 
  possible to get a regulator failure, and unless the ballast tank was built to 
  SCUBA tank pressure, it could possibly be ruptured if that happened.  
  Good point.  My sub is a one atmosphere design.
   
  That is the one scary thing about an open ambient 
  sub.   Then deeper you go the more air it takes not to go any 
  deeper.  A situation that can be a runaway disaster.  
   
  I don't know about an ambient sub, but in my 
  one atmosphere, when diving, I keep my main ballast tanks totally full of 
  water , vents opened, and my main ballast tank, adjusted to neutral 
  buoyancy of the sub and all valves shut.   
   
  Dan H.
   
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