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 Best way to add ballast via sand "on the fly" for 
any sub is simply suction.    Salvage operations do it all the 
time, only they suck the sand away and get rid of it.  Not a difficult 
thing to rig actually, all you need is a motor/impeller and a semi-permeable 
membrane to let the water and light silt pass through, leaving the good, heavy 
stuff behind.  It could be set up as a bladder system within an 
ambient/vented tank.  Later, the sand could be expelled if 
needed. 
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  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:52 
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  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Some 
  issues -- Sand Ballast 
  
  Boy it's really true that there aren't any new ideas out there. 
  :-)   Thanks for that great website of yours Doug; that is such a well 
  documented project!
 
  
  On 11/7/05, DJACKSON99@aol.com <DJACKSON99@aol.com> wrote: 
  
    
    If I remember sand varies depending on the type of sand, but is about 
    100 pounds per cubic foot, whereas lead is over 700 pounds per cubic foot, 
    meaning you need a lot of sand storage area.  I actually went down that 
    road with a design.  But I figured on just using a 
    dredge or shovel to load the sand.    http://www.submarineboat.com/sub/Sub_H2_files/h2.html 
      -- No tongue in cheek :)   Doug  
      
    
    Bill, yeah the sand ballasting was kind of a tongue in cheek 
      suggestion.  I was trying to get creative and spur some discussion on 
      ballasting a large air volume and still make it trailerable.  Also I 
      haven't looked up the density of sand but expect that it wouldn't compare 
      well to lead or even concrete.  :-)
  Way more practical to go 
      with a semi-dry compartment like you suggested.
  Paul
  
          
  
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