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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Some issues -- Sand Ballast



Best way to add ballast via sand "on the fly" for any sub is simply suction.    Salvage operations do it all the time, only they suck the sand away and get rid of it.  Not a difficult thing to rig actually, all you need is a motor/impeller and a semi-permeable membrane to let the water and light silt pass through, leaving the good, heavy stuff behind.  It could be set up as a bladder system within an ambient/vented tank.  Later, the sand could be expelled if needed.
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Some issues -- Sand Ballast

Boy it's really true that there aren't any new ideas out there. :-)   Thanks for that great website of yours Doug; that is such a well documented project!


On 11/7/05, DJACKSON99@aol.com <DJACKSON99@aol.com> wrote:
If I remember sand varies depending on the type of sand, but is about 100 pounds per cubic foot, whereas lead is over 700 pounds per cubic foot, meaning you need a lot of sand storage area.  I actually went down that road with a design.  But I figured on just using a dredge or shovel to load the sand.   http://www.submarineboat.com/sub/Sub_H2_files/h2.html   -- No tongue in cheek :)   Doug
 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 4:27:03 PM Central Standard Time, paulkreemer@gmail.com writes:
Bill, yeah the sand ballasting was kind of a tongue in cheek suggestion.  I was trying to get creative and spur some discussion on ballasting a large air volume and still make it trailerable.  Also I haven't looked up the density of sand but expect that it wouldn't compare well to lead or even concrete.  :-)

Way more practical to go with a semi-dry compartment like you suggested.

Paul

On 11/7/05, Akins < lakins1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Joe.