Compare the difference between the two below
links written by different reporters and see how scuba divers
who
find wrecks are demonized and called "theives"
and "plunderers".
found it when the U.S. Navy didn't try or give
a care enough to search for over 60 years!
The only theives and plunderers
are the state and federal governments. The
state of Florida illegally held Mel Fisher's Atochia treasure until a
federal court
made them give it back. Of course then the
federal government took a piece of it too since although it was
not in state waters and the state was due NO
cut of it, it WAS in federal waters. So the feds got their chunk for
doing NOTHING!
Diver's risk their lives and fortunes in
recovering sunken treasures and artifacts and instead of it being "finders,
keepers"
which it should be, the state and federal
governments think we should get nothing for our efforts. In fact recently
the law
has been changed to disallow us to keep
ANYTHING found on Florida state submerged lands without a permit. Of
course
to get that permit you have to give the state a
piece of your treasure for them doing NOTHING. Our Navy also takes
from
divers. If you bring up ANYTHING from a U.S.
Navy wreck, plane or ship, they will charge you with theft of gevernment
property
and confiscate it, fine you, and even give you
jail time. Yet the Navy is allowed by our courts to have it both ways. What
I mean by
that is....the Navy says it NEVER relenquishes
ownership of its wrecks and therefore they still own them and you cannot
recover them.
The supreme court has upheld this. Yet in court
cases that fishermen have brought against the Navy for damage to their
fishing boats
from exposed parts of Navy ships sticking out
of the water, the Navy has successfully argued that the Navy ABANDONED those
ships
and the courts have sided with the Navy on that
as well! So if the Navy wants something you find and bring up, they say they
NEVER
abandon any of their wrecks, but if you sue
them for damage to your boat from one of their wrecks, they say the
ABANDONED it!
It is illogical that our courts let them get
away with this, but they do. Next is the state archaeologists who do not
want anyone but
themselves finding and recovering artifacts.
They argue that only THEY are qualified and the rest of us are "amateurs",
"theives" and
"plunders" unless we have an archaeological
diploma hanging on the wall and work as a state archaeologist. The truth is
they are jealous
of the finds found by the private sector and
want to stop anyone from operating but them so they can write books, become
famous, get
credit for ALL the finds, and most
importantly....get further grants. All the above disgusts me and reading
that Largato article just brought it home
again just how discriminated against divers
are. Wasn't the Hunley a war grave? They didn't hesitate to bring that up.
The jap minisub
recently found in Hawaii is the same thing, yet
there is a big political flap about it being a war grave and shouldn't be
brought up. It looks to me
like a submarine is a war grave when the
federal government or state wants it to be and it somehow becomes an
archaeological dig when they
want it to be! So in effect, there is no law,
just whatever the federal or state government or the Navy says and makes up
as they go along.
Sorry for the ranting, the injustice of it
all just really bothers me. If it was up to me, every sub ever lost would be
brought up and put in a museum
so they could be preserved to be seen by future
generations instead of being allowed to rot into iron oxide dust which is
what will happen to them if unrecovered.
We could bury any crew remains in the ground
with full military honors (like we did the Hunley crew) and then call THAT a
war grave.
Bill.