Compare the difference between the two below 
    links written by different reporters and see how scuba divers 
    who
     
    find wrecks are demonized and called "theives" 
    and "plunderers". 
     
    
     
    
     
    found it when the U.S. Navy didn't try or give 
    a care enough to search for over 60 years!
     
     
    The only theives and plunderers 
     
    are the state and federal governments. The 
    state of Florida illegally held Mel Fisher's Atochia treasure until a 
    federal court 
     
    made them give it back. Of course then the 
    federal government took a piece of it too since although it was
     
    not in state waters and the state was due NO 
    cut of it, it WAS in federal waters. So the feds  got their chunk for 
    doing NOTHING!
     
    Diver's risk their lives and fortunes in 
    recovering sunken treasures and artifacts and instead of it being "finders, 
    keepers"
     
    which it should be, the state and federal 
    governments think we should get nothing for our efforts. In fact recently 
    the law
     
    has been changed to disallow us to keep 
    ANYTHING found on Florida state submerged lands without a permit. Of 
    course
     
    to get that permit you have to give the state a 
    piece of your treasure for them doing NOTHING. Our Navy also takes 
    from
     
    divers. If you bring up ANYTHING from a U.S. 
    Navy wreck, plane or ship, they will charge you with theft of gevernment 
    property
     
    and confiscate it, fine you, and even give you 
    jail time. Yet the Navy is allowed by our courts to have it both ways. What 
    I mean by
     
    that is....the Navy says it NEVER relenquishes 
    ownership of its wrecks and therefore they still own them and you cannot 
    recover them.
     
    The supreme court has upheld this. Yet in court 
    cases that fishermen have brought against the Navy for damage to their 
    fishing boats
     
    from exposed parts of Navy ships sticking out 
    of the water, the Navy has successfully argued that the Navy ABANDONED those 
    ships
     
    and the courts have sided with the Navy on that 
    as well! So if the Navy wants something you find and bring up, they say they 
    NEVER
     
    abandon any of their wrecks, but if you sue 
    them for damage to your boat from one of their wrecks, they say the 
    ABANDONED it!
     
    It is illogical that our courts let them get 
    away with this, but they do. Next is the state archaeologists who do not 
    want anyone but
     
    themselves finding and recovering artifacts. 
    They argue that only THEY are qualified and the rest of us are "amateurs", 
    "theives" and
     
    "plunders" unless we have an archaeological 
    diploma hanging on the wall and work as a state archaeologist. The truth is 
    they are jealous
     
    of the finds found by the private sector and 
    want to stop anyone from operating but them so they can write books, become 
    famous, get
     
    credit for ALL the finds, and most 
    importantly....get further grants. All the above disgusts me and reading 
    that Largato article just brought it home
     
    again just how discriminated against divers 
    are. Wasn't the Hunley a war grave? They didn't hesitate to bring that up. 
    The jap minisub
     
    recently found in Hawaii is the same thing, yet 
    there is a big political flap about it being a war grave and shouldn't be 
    brought up. It looks to me
     
    like a submarine is a war grave when the 
    federal government or state wants it to be and it somehow becomes an 
    archaeological dig when they
     
    want it to be! So in effect, there is no law, 
    just whatever the federal or state government or the Navy says and makes up 
    as they go along.
     
    Sorry for the ranting, the injustice of it 
    all just really bothers me. If it was up to me, every sub ever lost would be 
    brought up and put in a museum
     
    so they could be preserved to be seen by future 
    generations instead of being allowed to rot into iron oxide dust which is 
    what will happen to them if unrecovered.
     
    We could bury any crew remains in the ground 
    with full military honors (like we did the Hunley crew) and then call THAT a 
    war grave.
     
    Bill.