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 Compare the difference between the two below links 
written by different reporters and see how scuba divers who 
find wrecks are demonized and called "theives" and 
"plunderers".  
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/nation/12356810.htm  
In this link the divers are understanding heroes placing flags on the wrecked 
sub. 
http://www.cdnn.info/news/industry/i050710.html  
In this link the divers are "amateurs", "theives" and "plunderers". Yeah, 
amatuers who  
found it when the U.S. Navy didn't try or give 
a care enough to search for over 60 years! 
The only theives and plunderers  
are the state and federal governments. The state of 
Florida illegally held Mel Fisher's Atochia treasure until a federal court 
 
made them give it back. Of course then the federal 
government took a piece of it too since although it was 
not in state waters and the state was due NO cut of 
it, it WAS in federal waters. So the feds  got their chunk for doing 
NOTHING! 
Diver's risk their lives and fortunes in recovering 
sunken treasures and artifacts and instead of it being "finders, 
keepers" 
which it should be, the state and federal 
governments think we should get nothing for our efforts. In fact recently the 
law 
has been changed to disallow us to keep ANYTHING 
found on Florida state submerged lands without a permit. Of course 
to get that permit you have to give the state a 
piece of your treasure for them doing NOTHING. Our Navy also takes 
from 
divers. If you bring up ANYTHING from a U.S. Navy 
wreck, plane or ship, they will charge you with theft of gevernment 
property 
and confiscate it, fine you, and even give you jail 
time. Yet the Navy is allowed by our courts to have it both ways. What I mean 
by 
that is....the Navy says it NEVER relenquishes 
ownership of its wrecks and therefore they still own them and you cannot recover 
them. 
The supreme court has upheld this. Yet in court 
cases that fishermen have brought against the Navy for damage to their fishing 
boats 
from exposed parts of Navy ships sticking out of 
the water, the Navy has successfully argued that the Navy ABANDONED those 
ships 
and the courts have sided with the Navy on that as 
well! So if the Navy wants something you find and bring up, they say they 
NEVER 
abandon any of their wrecks, but if you sue them 
for damage to your boat from one of their wrecks, they say the ABANDONED 
it! 
It is illogical that our courts let them get away 
with this, but they do. Next is the state archaeologists who do not want anyone 
but 
themselves finding and recovering artifacts. They 
argue that only THEY are qualified and the rest of us are "amateurs", "theives" 
and 
"plunders" unless we have an archaeological diploma 
hanging on the wall and work as a state archaeologist. The truth is they are 
jealous 
of the finds found by the private sector and want 
to stop anyone from operating but them so they can write books, become famous, 
get 
credit for ALL the finds, and most 
importantly....get further grants. All the above disgusts me and reading that 
Largato article just brought it home 
again just how discriminated against divers are. 
Wasn't the Hunley a war grave? They didn't hesitate to bring that up. The jap 
minisub 
recently found in Hawaii is the same thing, yet 
there is a big political flap about it being a war grave and shouldn't be 
brought up. It looks to me 
like a submarine is a war grave when the federal 
government or state wants it to be and it somehow becomes an archaeological dig 
when they 
want it to be! So in effect, there is no law, just 
whatever the federal or state government or the Navy says and makes up as they 
go along. 
Sorry for the ranting, the injustice of it all 
just really bothers me. If it was up to me, every sub ever lost would be brought 
up and put in a museum 
so they could be preserved to be seen by future 
generations instead of being allowed to rot into iron oxide dust which is what 
will happen to them if unrecovered. 
We could bury any crew remains in the ground with 
full military honors (like we did the Hunley crew) and then call THAT a war 
grave. 
Bill.  
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