Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: 1 (2?) man "working" Disney(ish) Nautilus sub on ebay

[Jim Pesanka <jpesanka@yahoo.com>]

Hello everyone,

 

My name is Jim and I have been a member of Psubs for a while.  I have a genuine interest in submarines and especially the personal variety, though I have not actually built one yet.  I've enjoyed reading the messages I've found here, but this is the first time I've had a reason to actually post one myself.  I have a question, but first allow me to express my congratulations to your new psub owner, Pierre, on his recent success with the submersible "Big".  I look forward to seeing pictures of it.

 

To my question: it concerns the Nautilus sub on Ebay.  It's not often a submarine comes up for sale.  There is some interest in buying this one, but many of us have little understanding of what a sub like this should (or should not) be like.  We would appreciate the observations of those with more knowledge than we possess. 

 

I found Ian and Mike's comments informative.  Thank you both. 

 

Ian,  Could you explain what a K250/350 hybrid is?  And would you expand on the lack of "internal framing" you mentioned?  Also the "little bottles" at the viewports, please?  And especially your comment that you "wouldn't dive in it": This leads me to think it might be unsafe.  Obviously, that's important to any of us thinking of buying this sub.  Please give us some reasons why you feel that way, if you will.

 

Mike, you made some enlightening observations as well.  Please go into a little greater depth on the subject, will you?  (Oh my!  I honestly did not intend a pun there, but the deed is done.)

 

Will everyone here, please, take a look at the Ebay auction and the pictures of this sub, and give us your thoughts and observations?  Does this look like a well designed and soundly built submarine we should feel safe in, or not?  And in either case, why?

 

Other questions include: "What is the importance of the seller's statement that this sub has never been underwater yet?" and "What do you estimate a fair price for this submarine to be?" 

 

I'm wondering about it being "pedal powered".  I assume that means it works like a bicycle, and would like to know how efficient that would be in a sub of this size and weight, especially with the propeller being of the unusual type shown?  What would you all estimate the top speed of such a vessel to be, if that's possible to determine?

 

With what can be known of the submarine from available information, is it possible to determine how reliable it might be underwater, and what depths it might successfully attain?

 

Any other comments and observations you'd care to make will be appreciated, and could be very important to someone's safety, so please don't hold back or worry about being "politically correct".  If you think this is a good sub, please say so and explain why.  If not, we need to know that, too.  

 

I'd also beg for this topic to receive some priority from the group, as the auction will only be up for a limited time.  Your comments may be vitally important, and time is of the essence.  Thank you.

 

Cheers!

 

Jim 

 

Michael Holt <mholt@ohiohills.com> wrote:

> Ian Roxborough wrote:
>
> > It reminds me a little of the K250/350 hybird, but with no internal
> > framing. The same skinny viewport housings. Maybe the builder had
> > seen a set of K250 plans. The inside picture has a shot of the
> > viewport housing, with little bottles that appear to go all the way
> > thru the housing! Looks pretty, I wouldn't dive in it.
>
> I'd kinda like to talk with him. Does that address on ebay really
> work? I've had some trouble with ebay addresses.
>
> Pedal-powered, he suggests. No propulsion system is fitted, it
> seems. I bet it's planned to do nothing more than dip a few feet
> under the surface.
>
> In the background of one image, there's what looksl ike a small
> replica of a steam locomotive. The sub may have been nothing
> more than a welding project for him.
>
> Thanks,
>  Ian.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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