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Re: Fw: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WOW!!! Cool Idea "was" Sub form as a float ship normal: Exist?



I went to the www.exomos.com site and did not see mention of proteus or the other submersibles being ambient. If they are ambient how would this make them "ambient goof machines"?
 
If everyone knows they are ambient and both the occupants of the dry cabin and the exposed to water divers follow dive tables how does this make them any more dangerous than any other ambient submarine?
 
What is it about this company and these particualr subs that make them any more dangerous than any other ambient sub? I did not know exactly which sub you were referring to Dave since there are many sub designs
 
for sale at that site. I assumed you were talking about the proteus though. Could you elaborate a bit about how and why these subs by being ambient are more dangerous than other ambient subs?
 
Kindest Regards,
 
Bill Akins.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Banks
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WOW!!! Cool Idea "was" Sub form as a float ship normal: Exist?

WOW,,,what a cool idea.  Some one has finally figured out how to give a hole bunch of people the bends all at one time.  Geee...they can even take Grandma and the kids along. This wonderful exomos site has once again demonstrated that marketing is all it takes to sell any thing. I'm going to start selling wings that strap onto motor homes with Velcro, quick and easy installation,,,takes just 15 minuets and you'll be on your way to glideing through the Grand Cannon.  But before I do that I'll need some marketing capital.....so if any one is interested...I have swamp land down here in Florida that will be worth.....Is this a negative attitude...hell yes it is....this is truly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen and it scares me that there are people that actually look at this exomos thing as a SUBMARINE....
IT"S NOT A SUBMARINE....it's an ambient goof machine on a grand level...this guy needs to get the balls and build a pressure vessel,,, hell,, he's in Dubai any way and could never be implicated in a law suit ........Dave Banks


DJACKSON99@aol.com wrote:
WOW! Congradulations Herve and thanks for the photos.  I posted them on my web site.  (Hope you don't mind.)   I am looking forward to an update in August after her dive test. 
 
PSUBers: You can follow the Yacht/Submarine link from my main page: www.submarineboat.com to see the photos.  Also see www.exomos.com, there is a great video on the main page, with more detail of Proteus.
 
--Doug J
 
In a message dated 5/29/2005 4:03:17 AM Central Daylight Time, hjaubert@emirates.net.ae writes:
Hello Doug,
Attached pictures of my Proteus the Submersible yacht, this is the
first time ever built submersible yacht with luxury interior, she
looks like a boat but fully submerges in 60 ft max depth,
I launched the proteus for the Dubai international boat show and i am
now outrigging the boat for a test dive in 3 months.
45 tons, carries 10 people in the watertight cabin and up to 15 divers
on deck.
1200HP diesel engine for surface and 200 kw electric motor for
submerged transits.
300 miles range surface, 24 miles range under the water.
manned with 1 pilot and 1 engineer
Top speed 25 knts
price tag: $8M
cheers
Herve Jaubert

----- Original Message -----
From: Herve <hjaubert@emirates.net.ae>
Date: Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:39 pm
Subject: Fw: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub form as a float ship normal: Exist?

>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: DJACKSON99@aol.com
>  To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>  Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 11:13 PM
>  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub form as a float ship normal: Exist?
>
>
>  Greetings Fanta
>
>  First off congradulations! I saw your profile and you have an
> impressive array of languages.
>
>  The problem with boat hulls as you likely know, is that they are
> not a good shape for withstanding the pressure. So if a sub looks
> like it has a common boat hull it is either just a thin covering
> over a steel tube that hides and protects all of the external
> working stuff and also makes the sub more streamlined like W.W.II
> subs or it is a wet sub.  I am working on building a dry ambient
> that ! is also a surface planing jet boat, and I have some examples
> of wet subs the also perform well on the surface on my web site;
> www.submarineboat.com  One is a design that is currently being
> built for the US Navy Seals. There are no good photos available
> but it is a lot like an inflatable ridged bottom boat that can
> deflate and submerge. And the winner of the 2003 Concept Boat
> contest is a seed boat/wet sub.  Both of these are on my
> "Submarine 101" page. Another example was built by  Herve Jauvert
> on the "Evolution of Design" page.  My own boat is a dry ambient
> which complicates the problem a bit more because in order to
> submerge with air inside the cabin, I have to take with me a lot
> of lead weight, which is not ideal for a boat that you also want
> plane when running on the surface.
>
>  Good Day --Doug
>
>
>  In a me! ssage dated 5/27/2005 1:12:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
> fanta590@yahoo.com writes:
>    Hi Michael and Mike,
>    thank you very much for information about Kaiten, I have a
> question more: Are there sub with the hull form as a normal ship?
> it mean: a boat on surface can dive when it need.
>    The form of sub is as any float boat. I wonder if it exist.
> Have you ideas?
>    Thank again
>    Fanta
>
>
 

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