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Hello forum.
I agree with Dave that engineering and math
computations are an integral and important aspect of Psubs.org. I also agree
with Dave that Andy's post regarding buckling strength is a perfect ONE
example
of what this web site should be
about, but that should not preclude other submarine topics including
historical ones.
Dave I do not agree with your statement ....."I
mean,, who cares about anything that sank during the civil war anyway? Screw
this Hunnly (sic) bunnly crap.....Dave Banks".
Dave, you asked "who cares?". Apparently a lot of
researchers, archeaologists and many others as well care. At the end of this
post I include a link to the official Hunley site that shows an impressive list
of who cared including the U.S. Navy.
Not all of us here are engineers. Others like
myself might have simple wetsubs that do not require a lot of engineering or
math computations like a pressure hull would entail. Still other members might
like to have a 1 atmosphere sub
but opt for a wetsub or ambient because of
knowledge and financial limitations.
Still other members might not have a sub at all but
are interested in the subject AND THE HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT BEHIND
IT.
If someone does not care about the interesting
early development of submarines that is certainly their right. However, there
are a great many people who care about the Hunley submarine which sank during
the civil war.
So many cared that a major
expedition was launched to recover it, preserve it, study it, and display it
with traveling museum displays and a full size replica. In addition there have
been numerous books and a movie
made about the Hunley.
Nordenfelt, Hunley, Bushnell, Fulton, Lake, Holland
and even earlier submarine inventors all contributed to technology and
development that has led us to the modern submarine. Without knowledge of early
submarine
technology trial and errors, we would not have
today's technology that the early technology evolved into. Many early
submariners died adding to our collective knowledge and by reviewing their
mistakes FROM THE PAST
we do not make the same mistakes and move forward
in the evolvement of the technology. Those who forget the lessons of history are
doomed to repeat them. So history is important to submarine
technology.
You might as well say..."who cares about the civil
war?" or "who cares about WW1 or WW2?" or "who cares about history at all?" or
"let's throw all the books away and start with no historical knowledge of the
subject".
If the Hunley does not interest you Dave, that's
fine. But it is a submarine topic and does interest a great many people.
I for one am not so interested in engineering and
math computations regarding relative hull strength and other formulas. I realize
my limitations and at least for now am limiting myself to my wetsub and possibly
an ambient one later.
I doubt seriously if I will ever PERSONALLY build a
1 atmospthere sub. But I highly respect those who do, and do not begrudge them
their discussion topics here.
I would never post to criticize those who are
interested in those subjects, by saying "Who cares about a math formula that was
formulated during the civil war?" or "screw this sub engineering gearing
crap" or "screw this math formula bore-me-ula crap".
Please allow everyone the courtesy that you would
like shown to you regarding submarine subjects. Or as a question to the
forum....Should we start censoring specifically what submarine topics can and
can not be discussed here????
"Hunnly (sic) bunnly crap"
indeed!
Link to the "official" Hunley submarine
site... http://www.hunley.org/
Kindest Regards,
Bill Akins.
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