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 Hi Brian. 
Now Brian, you know I meant that the Hunley could 
not get to the bottom ON PURPOSE without FIRST using her dive planes. I wasn't 
talking about an accident like when they sunk.  
How could the Hunley have submerged without using 
her dive planes? If we accept that the Hunley had to keep all her interior air 
and never lost any but only had it pressurized at depth by the inflow of 
pressurized water into the open top ballast tanks, 
then how could you fill the ballast tanks without 
letting air out of them and thus letting air out of the hull? We know they did 
not do this or else they would have lost air in letting water into the ballast 
tanks and not had enough air afterwards when 
they needed to pump out the water. 
Imagine the Hunley and its ballast tanks are a 
giant glass. The only difference here is that the Hunley giant glass could stop 
the amount of water coming into her by closing the valve in her open top 
ballast tanks when she had all the water inside she needed. 
If I take a glass and turn it upside down and 
push it underwater I cannot get more water to go into the glass until I either 
let air out of the glass, or push it deeper underwater where water pressure will 
compress the air in the glass and let in more water. 
That glass would not submerge without me pushing it 
underwater like a diving plane would a sub in forward motion. But if I push 
that glass underwater far enough so that the air in the glass is pressurized and 
does not have enough volume left to float the glass, then the 
glass becomes neutral or negative. That is what the 
bow planes allowed the Hunley to do. 
If we accept that the Hunley never lost any 
internal air and that she had open top and open to the hull interior ballast 
tanks, then she would only be able to submerge by using her forward speed and 
dive planes. Once she was under water, the water pressure would be  
greater than the  pressure inside the boat and if they opened the  
ballast tank's inlet 
valves then water would enter the ballast tanks under pressure from 
outside.  Then when the volume of air was compressed and lessened inside 
the Hunley, she would become neutral or negative just like the glass. 
 
So the only possibility for the open top ballast 
tanks, interior atmosphere immediately pressurized upon submergence Hunley, 
to submerge, would be to force herself under by forward motion and use of her 
dive planes. Once under and pressurized she could 
stay under since she is now pressurized and has a 
lesser volume of air. But she could not have gotten down ON PURPOSE without 
first using the dive planes and forward motion.  
Brian if you know how the Hunley submerged without 
using her forward speed and bow planes, and accepting that she could 
not lose air from her interior to let in water into the open top ballast tanks, 
please tell me how she did this? 
How would you make the open bottom glass go 
underwater without Letting air out (which they didn't do) or pushing it, 
like with dive planes? 
May we please hear from some of our forum 
experts here on this subject? 
Kindest Regards, 
Bill Akins. 
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