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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stupid Idea was Burst Valve



Hi forum.
 
Why not have a diver lock out chamber as an escape device instead of a burst/scuttle valve for the main hull? The only reason I can think of that someone would
 
have a valve to let water into the subs main hull, is so the pressure inside would equal the outside so you could open the hatch to bail out. That means the sub would be dropping like a
 
rock at that point and you probably wouldn't make it to the surface anyway by the time the sub flooded enough for you to open the hatch and bail out. But with a
 
diver lockout chamber you wouldn't need to flood the sub, just get into the lockout chamber and flood it and then open the lockout chamber exterior hatch to escape.
 
Of course you would be lucky to escape anyway in a situation where you might have to use the lockout chamber because if you were going down by the time you made the decision
 
to bail out via the lockout you might be so deep your body may not be able to stand the exterior water pressure. Also you probably would only get one person out since there would
 
not be enough time to blow out the lockout chamber for another person to use before the sub imploded if you were going down fast. Totally depends on your depth of course.
 
Has anyone built a p sub that has an escape pod built into it that could
 
jettison from the main sub and has its own adjustable buoyancy? Just an egg, tube, or sphere that has no motor and a simple breathing air and buoyancy system, for emergency bailout built to hold the entire crew capicity of your p sub.
 
Kind of like an adjustable buoyancy non line tethered version of the emergency McCann resuce chamber diving bell that recovered submariners invented and built by Commander Charles B."Swede"  Momsen the inventor of the momsen lung,
 
(See the U.S.S. Squalus rescue)  http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq99-1.htm       http://www.fra.org/navalaffairs/2001-7/na2001-7e.html      http://www.subnet.com/fleet/ss192.htm    http://www.onr.navy.mil/focus/blowballast/squalus/default.htm
 
http://www.fleetsubmarine.com/ss-192.html
 
Only much more streamline and actually built into the sub so it doesn't stick out and can be jettisoned. Definately would increase the size of the sub though to have this. I like this idea much better than flooding the hull and breathing thru a
 
regulator while hoping the main hatch will open and having to endure hypothermia and extreme outside water pressure.
 
Kindest Regards,
Bill Akins.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stupid Idea was Burst Valve


I agree that the Burst valve isn't a good idea, which could end up killing
people.

The flood valve (AKA scuttle valve) is NO JOKE and is going to save lifes.
That is unless you're spending so much time and money that you would prefer
to die rather than get your sub wet and live.  Of course this is the VERY
VERY LAST OPTION (well second last if you count dying as an option). You'd
have to be a fool not spend the few $$ on way out of your sub in an
emergency.

For those who choose to death over a flood valve, make sure you have
enough CO2 absober to out last your O2 supply, otherwise it's going to
end with a very painful headache.

Captain goes down with his ship?

Ian.