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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)



The heat exchanger is on the out side of the pressure vessel for HVAC units.   Heat in most cases can be dealt with by waring warm clothes such as the underwear from a good dry suit. ( a company named DUI makes a very good one that I use ) As you become too warm the suit can be un-zipped and so on.   But it should also be remembered that if you get entangled in some thing down there that you'll most likely die from hypothermia before you exhaust the life support system as was the case with the Johnson Sea Link.  I'm sure Vance or one of the other old timers can fill in the details on the link.....djb

Al Secor <wreckdiver@usadatanet.net> wrote:
The air conditioner on my pleasure boat is a heat pump / air conditioner which uses circulating seawater as the exchange medium.
 
Al Secor  ARS: WA3PWX  Scuba Instructor SSI PDIC TDI
http://www.geocities.com/SubDiverI
----- Original Message -----
From: Akins
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)

Hi Alec.
 
Yep, you'd have to have your heat producing parts outside of the crew or passenger area. You might be able to have them there though if they were insulated completely somehow though.
I'll ask my dad where they had their heat producing parts on his WW2 sub located. He might not remember though. Been 60 years ago.
Kindest Regards,
Bill Akins.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alec Smyth
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)

But if the AC unit is in the sub, then the heat it takes out of the cabin goes back into? the cabin. I presume they?d need a heat exchanger plumbed to the outside? I have no plan whatsoever to do this, it?s just idle curiosity.

 

Snoopy, the K-250 I bought off Dale Heinzig, came with a resistor heater which Dale presumably found necessary in the frozen temperatures they?ve got up there. I?m afraid I removed that particular item to re-use the electrical circuit for a different bit of equipment.

 

Cheers,

 

Alec

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Akins [mailto:lakins1@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:11 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)

 

Hi Alec.

 

Since tourist subs often have many passengers aboard they have air conditioning to compensate for all the body heat. Also they need an airflow of cool air to flow over each of the portholes the passengers look out of so those portholes will not fog up

from the passengers being close to them and breathing on the glass.

This wouldn't just be for the surface. How do they do it? Just like the a/c unit in your car. With a compressor and condensor and fan. I went down in a sub in the caymans recently and they had the a/c on and directed at the portholes.

My dad's old gato class fleet sub from WW2 had air conditioning too. You could probably rig up an a/c unit to work in a small dry psub if you wanted to and had enough battery power. Hope this helped.

 

Kindest Regards,

Bill Akins.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alec Smyth

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:50 AM

Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)

 

Actually this reminded me of something I've been curious about for a
long time. With tourist subs, I often see they have "air conditioning".
I presume this is when they are surfaced? Even so, I wonder how they do
that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Nomdae Plume [mailto:nomdae@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:10 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)

Thanks Carsten & Dan.

I didn't know if the metal hull of a psub was enough (or too much) of a
heatsink to warrant additional hardware.  I've seen many posts regarding
the
condensation issue, and made the assumption that it must get kinda warm
inside a small psub.

-- NP


>From: Carsten Standfuss <Merlinsub@t-online.de>
>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Cabin heat (take 2)
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:49:28 +0100
>
>If the cabin is small you need no heather.
>Your body generate about 150 Watt..
>
>In Sgt.Peppers I build the original electric heather out - and dive the
>boat in coold waters in a t-shirt.
>
>In Deepflight - a pressure hull made from grp or ceramic - it was
>obviously a cooling problem.
>
>regards Carsten
>
>
>Dan H. schrieb:
> >
> > Nomdae,
> >
> > Power is a precious commodity in a small sub.  There isn't much to
spare
>for
> > resistance heat.  Just dress for the occasion.  Cooling shouldn't be

>much of
> > a problem, unless you visiting some kind of under sea volcano vent.
The
> > water temp isn't hot.  What is annoying when in colder water is the
>humidity
> > and condensation that builds up in the sub.
> >
> > Dan H.





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