Carsten,
On the whole, I do not disagree with you. However,
in a broader sense, how will this affect us
civilian-builders-explorers in the future. There
is a public perception out there that we are 'nuts'
[ and perhaps we are : )) ] and also we are
perceived as a liability and safety risk. The
Reuters' article doesn't help the general sub-
builders community.
On another note. I have come across papers
[ which I haven't organized or posted yet ] on
archaeological forensics. With the new analysis
software and current computer technology, it's
amazing what can be reconstructed from a few
artifacts and a debris field from an ancient
wreck, which, in some instances, does not have
archival data, blueprints...etc., to lend
historical support. At least, in this case, these
sites should not be disturbed..."hands-off"..*until*
the site has been thoroughly researched, documented
and reconstructed.
There is also group of archaeologist [ albeit small for now ]
whose primary study and research are the time-degradation
effects of shipwrecks. Some of the conditions can be
recreated in a laboratory, but the random effects of
underwater meteorlogy and environmental changes cannot
be modelled or predicted with accuracy.
Nonetheless, our concern should be how restrictive will
it become for us with future legislation.
regards,
--Steve
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:43:34 +0100, Carsten Standfuss
<MerlinSub@t-online.de> wrote:
Ian, my fife cents - Titanic is made from mild steel and will be
gone in
50-100 years completly - with or without submersibles..
Better they visit them now and so often they can - make pictures,
videos
and raise something for public museum porpose before she is a debris
field of flat plates.
I can not believe that a submersible touch the deck with almost zero
bouancy can badly damage a stable wreck - and a unstable wreck will go
in a couple of years anyway.
In the baltic sea - now virtual every wreck in german waters is protect
by law for archelogical reason - even the newer ones.. :-0
I don't agree that wrecks of ships were we have all informations from -
including the logs, blueprints, building pictures, private and offical
reports should be special protect - there is no lost information on
board of the Titanic make it worth to special-protect this wreck so
that
only siencetific can visit here. Its great history for shure - but a
archelogical site ?
We can build them new if somebody pay the bill - up to the last rived.
best regards Carsten
Ian Roxborough schrieb:
Not good news for submarsibles/p-subs in general:
http://reuters.excite.com/article/20041115/2004-11-15T140317Z_01_N14187528_RTRIDST_0_ODD-SCIENCE-TITANIC-DC.html
Although must of people on the list won't get a drive a submarine
to see the Titanic, this is a high profile monument and when people
claim that it's damaged by submersibles, it gives all submersibles
a bad name...
Ian.
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