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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Off Topic : Fwd: : dam
Hi Marki,
I'm unable to access your photos, maybe there is some public share option
you need to set.
Thanks,
Ian.
-----Original Message-----
From: marki katschor <les_marki@riverview.net>
Sent: Nov 12, 2004 3:57 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Off Topic : Fwd: : dam
im 17 miles from pierson,MI. anybody looking for a small 1 man 1 atm. sub?
would like to sell mine,,6,500.00. made video 7 weeks ago. Im building a
bigger one,here are some pictures.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lkatschor/my_photos
dident have time to take it past 15 feet this year.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Mills" <invacuo@applevalley.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Off Topic : Fwd: : dam
> Sorry for this off-topic post, but I couldn't resist sharing
> this. A friend sent this to me in response to my research into
> gov't regs affecting boating and submersibles...etc.
>
> cheers, --Steve
>
>
> Subject: dam
>
>
> > Mr. Ryan DeVries
> > 2088 Dagget
> > Pierson, MI 49339
> > December 17, 2002
> >
> > SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County
> >
> > Dear Mr. DeVries:
> >
> > It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental
> > Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above
> > referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal
> > landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized
> > activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across
> > the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the
> > start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files
> > shows that no permits have been issued.
> >
> > Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in
> > violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural
> > Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts
> > of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan
> > Compiled Laws, annotated.
> >
> > The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams
> > partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and
> > flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are
> > inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore
> > orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to
> > restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and
> > brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work
> > shall be completed no later than January 31, 2003.
> >
> > Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so
> > that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff.
> > Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized
> > activity on the site may result in this case being referred for
> > elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your
> > full cooperation in this matter.
> >
> > Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any
> > questions.
> >
> > Sincerely, David L. Price
> > District Representative
> > Land and Water Management Division
> >
> >
> >
> > [Response sent back.]
> >
> > Dear Mr. Price,
> > Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County
> >
> > Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond
> > to.
> >
> > I am the legal landowner but not the contractor at 2088 Dagget,
> > Pierson, Michigan. A couple of beavers are in the (state unauthorized)
> > process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across
> > the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for,
> > authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be
> > highly offended that you call their skillful use of natural building
> > materials "debris."
> >
> > I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their
> > dam project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can
> > safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills,
> > their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence,
> > their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. As to your
> > request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first
> > fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.
> >
> > My first dam question to you is (1) Are you trying to discriminate
> > against my Spring Pond Beavers or (2) do you require all beavers
> > throughout this State to conform to said dam request?
> >
> > If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers,
> > through the Freedom of Information Act I request completed copies of
> > all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued.
> > Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301,
> > Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental
> > Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections
> > 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.
> >
> > I have several concerns. My first concern is - aren't the beavers
> > entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are
> > financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation -
> > so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The
> > Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed
> > during a recent rain event causing flooding is proof that this is a
> > natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In
> > other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than
> > harassing them and calling their dam names. If you want the
> > stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition, please contact the
> > beavers - but if you are going to arrest them, be aware that they
> > obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter due to
> > inability to read English.
> >
> > In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build
> > their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green
> > and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to
> > live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and
> > Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the
> > natural resources (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams). So,
> > as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be
> > referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait
> > until 1/31/2003? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then
> > and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass
> > them then.
> >
> > In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real
> > environmental quality (health) problem in the area: the bears. Bears
> > are actually defecating in our woods! I definitely believe you should
> > be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If
> > you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step (the
> > bears are not careful where they dump).
> >
> > Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to
> > contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response
> > to your day office via another dam government organization - the USPS.
> > Maybe, someday, it will get there.
> >
> > Sincerely, Stephen L. Tvedten
> > The University of Texas at Austin
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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