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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Starting my sub



Deric,

 

I know it must be irresistible when you get a tank like that for free to want to turn it into a sub, but I’d urge you to design first and get the steel later, or even better to go from existing plans. Believe me, although an empty looks like an almost-complete sub, the cost of the steel is nothing in the big picture of things. Say for instance you decided one foot less diameter would do, you’d literally save tons of displacement. The savings in terms of everything else by that change alone would probably exceed the cost of buying a tank new. And then there’s the question of whether the tank is of known and appropriate material, appropriate wall thickness, whether at some time in its life it was overheated, etc. I have seen this done, since Greg Cottrell’s 3-person sub was made from a WWII era tank that he got for free. It must be particularly satisfying to literally turn someone else’s junk into a gleaming new sub. But in retrospect, you’ll be in the water years earlier and for much less money if you build say a K boat to plans and order new steel, than if you have to design a whole sub from scratch just to reuse an existing tank.

 

Just my 2 cents after spending years figuring out all the stuff related to a custom design. I certainly don’t mean to put you off building a sub, but if I were to do it again I would definitely do the first one from someone else’s plans, even though I’m an engineer by training.

 

Thanks,

 

Alec

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dj [mailto:swaircraftsupply@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:09 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Starting my sub

 

I guess it's my turn , I never thought this day would come a friend of mine was cutting up some scrap iron from his fab yard and he was just about ready to lay waste to a beautiful 4' x 12'  tank in perfect condition and of course I asked if I could have it. Well I have the tank now but I have a problem all of this seemed so easy when it was dream, now that its all real I am stuck on stupid, So can someone point me in the right direction until I get over the shock that I have started to build my own sub. from what I understand you take the dia 4' squared x .7854 x L    L=12'   =   150.7968 CF   x  62.4 lbs = 9409.72032 llbs of water displacement  -- 2.500 lbs this is how much the tank weigh  = 7088lbs and this would be the weight that I would have to meet in order for the sub to sink ?
and how do you calculate-how deep you can go and stiffeners needed.
Thanks.
Deric from
Lancaster,CA


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