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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reverse engineering in CAD
Interesting ! It's been done. Check out
http://www.uwm.edu/People/aguilar/vents.html
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@wyoming.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reverse engineering in CAD
> I realize that Steve. I was discussing an idea with a fellow
> prospector about the idea of sending a ROV into some of the hot
> springs at Yellowstone. We'd love to see what's down there, how far
> and how hot.
> Carl
>
>
> Steven Mills wrote:
>
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> > I can't claim any expertise. Most of what I know is academic.
> >>From my research and studies, temp limits are not included
> > within the specifications of ROVs or submersibles. Usually,
> > the list covers : depth rating, weight, energy type, propulsion,
> > telemetry, and deepest dive to date. For example, the general
> > specs given for the "SUPSALV" is 29K ft depth rating, 20.5K
> > deepest dive, weight-13K pounds, power-80 hp electric/hydraulic
> > 3phase 2800V No standard temp data.
> >
> > Also, realize that some research ROVs and submersibles dive thru
> > varying temperature ranges, from surface temps transitioning thru
> > the thermocline where the temp can approach 0 degrees celsius
> > at 5+K depth and radically go up to 400 C at themal vents though
> > this is in very close proximity to the vent, the ambient temp at depth
> > remains around 2degrees C around the vent. However, manipulators
> > that take samples directly from the source must stand up to the extreme
> > temperature changes.
> >
> > It seems to me that pressure is the primary criteria and not temperature.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@wyoming.com>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reverse engineering in CAD
> >
> >
> >
> >>What is the maximum underwater temperature an ROV can tolerate?
> >>Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>Steven Mills wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thanks Ian,
> >>>
> >>>I checked the DynaMechs site and I can envision applications for
> >>>controlled-networked applications for excavation, repairs, and
> >>>rescue ops using ROVs controlled from a psub or onboard ship.
> >>>
> >>>A sub could hover at a safe distance while commanding a group
> >>>or swarm of rovs [ with manipulators, welders....etc. ] into high
> >>>risk areas or at greater depths than the sub could go or into areas
> >>>too small or sensitive to turbulence [ ie., archaeological digs ] for
> >>>a large boat to venture. Even one ROV with camera and manipulator
> >>>working in tandem with a manned sub would reduce the power
> >>>overhead of the sub.
> >>>
> >>>Oh well, it's easier to think of these things than take them to task !
> >>>
> >>>--Steve
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Ian Roxborough <irox@ix.netcom.com>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Steve,
> >>>>
> >>>>I've not been doing much work on the DynaMechs K350 simulation, but I do
> >>>>have some clues to follow once I get sometime to work on it. Mainly, I
> >>>>need to recalculate the moment of inertia every time I adjust the VBT
> >>>>(since the mass of the vessel will have changed).
> >>>>
> >>>>Once I complete the control software for Solo I'll revisit the K350 sim.
> >>>>It's my (long term) intend that the control software can be interfaced to
> >>>>the simulator as well. So you could try out a control setup/configuration
> >>>>in the simulator, and if you like it, then you can use the same configuration
> >>>>files to configure the controls of a sub.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ian.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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