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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ambient Vs. 1-Atm Quandary



Don't do it Shawn !!  I would say just stay on your present design path but if there are items holding you back cost wise to just defer those as long as you can.  You can still have your present design but just maybe be able to "upgrade" to a stronger pressure hull or what ever.   I think that the ambient has too many human biological risks with the pressue changes.
 
just my opinion
 
Brian
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ambient Vs. 1-Atm Quandary

In a message dated 3/16/04 7:48:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, DJACKSON99@aol.com writes:
Watching the current builders bring their subs together is very motivational, but your ambient design is of special interest to me.  Ambient Rules!  :)
Not just a bit biased are we Doug? ;-)  I've noticed over the months that ambients tend to be viewed almost like ... [struggling for terms] Jr. PSUBs or "almost" PSUBs, but not in a truly maligning way by any means.  I actually envy everyone who's building an ambient in terms of cost and complexity.  Generally speaking you'll have your boats in the water far sooner and less-expensively than the rest of us.  Because my planned operational envelope is essentially the same as for ambients ... up where there's light and the risks of bailout are less ... mine would be an ambient were it not for my desire to have it hydrobatic.  When I made the transition to a 1-atm design, *everything* just got a whole lot more complicated, costly and long-term.  Therein lies my quandary. 
 
It's a war between truly loving the image I have of what I want (my UPS) in all its glorious complexity & capabilities and the desire not to have to wait what I'm now projecting as a multiyear project, both in terms of design and affordability, before actually getting wet. [minor tantrum in the background ... pay no attention to the crazy hippie engineer] 
 
I love the added time (72hrs) and depth capabilities (now 300' operation range) that the transition to a steel pressure hull and 1-atm design brought.  Having a maximum diameter of 28" tapering to 18" for a pressure hull (steel mummy-bag), means I also get a great safety margin in terms of depth capacity (1200+') with the same 1/4" steel as larger diametered craft with lower ratings.  I also thoroughly enjoy the design process ... [raising hand] "Hi.  My name is Shawn.  I'm a design addict."  I *know* it's a viable design and within my abilities to achieve eventually, and I want it so bad I can taste it.
 
But, I'm also enough of a study of at least my own nature to also know that the sooner I get something in the water, the less frustrating that path will be ... and the greater the likelihood of my staying with it.  So, I'm seriously considering taking a sidetrip on my design path and building a non-hydrobatic dry ambient version first.  I can build and use the same exostructure (thrusters, control surfaces, ballast system, etc.) but without the pressure hull and life support requirements of the 1-atm design.  Since my design incorporates the ability to jettison everything from the pressure hull except emergency ballast, theoretically, the transition from the dry ambient to a 1-atm would be a matter of swapping out the pressure hulls w/life support.  Am I making sense?  Thoughts, suggestions?
 
Warm Regards
Shawn
 
 
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