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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court
Gail,
Many of us have been here a long time. We know what PSUB is like. Heck,
it's the internet! It's doesn't take long to sort things out but in the
end, many of us think there is still some good here.
I'm not trying to be rude here but bluntness is the only way to say it. We
don't need you to point out anything. I for one like PSUB and I like Pat
also. He used to post here for years. I still keep in contact with him.
Life goes on. He used to be here and now has his own web site. Nothing
wrong with that. In fact it's great.
What neither his site or PSUB needs is you, or anyone else, ranting and
raving. If you walk into a club you don't care for, you don't tear the
place down, you just LEAVE!
Incidentally, you commented about the language in here and our manners? In
all the years I've been a part of PSUB we haven't had as many cuss words
posted as you've posted.
I'm trying to be polite but asking you to conform to the group and be a
contributor or simply find another CLUB, leaving ours intact. It's not
gender based I assure you.
I'll even be courteous enough and try to remember to leave the seat down for
you as long as you care to stay aboard and talk to Steve about doing the
same. :-)
Dan H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Coalbunny" <coalbunny@vcn.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court
> Dan, no it wasn't meant as that. Just trying to be informative.
> Carl
>
>
> Dan H. wrote:
>
> > Gail,
> >
> > I certainly don't want to get between you and Carl, especially when
> > fists and finger nails are swinging around, but!
> >
> > The way Fly Deep commented about a scuttle valve, by bowing out of the
> > list insinuating we're a bunch of fools for our "desire to flood a
> > submarine with freezing cold water," when clearly he has no idea when,
> > or why, a person would do that, he was asking for everything Carl handed
> > him. Yes, I agree, it did sound condescending,and if Carl didn't mean
> > it that he should have.
> >
> > We have had many come and go from the list. That's nothing new. The
> > ones that come in to learn and then contribute are a real asset. Some
> > of them get tired and move on also. Folks come and go but the ones that
> > benefit most are then ones that come in, sit themselves down, and
> > observe for a while. We learn much more from listening then talking
> > about things we don't know.
> >
> > Having said that, let me welcome you to the group. We probably have a
> > few other women here but I don't know. It's nice to see you post as
> > one. I know several women in engineering but none of them are
> > interested in subs. I'm sure you will be able to contribute and be an
> > active part of the group if you want to. Just relax, take it a bit
> > easier and enjoy the comradery. You'll learn a lot and we probably will
> > too. If it wasn't for the internet and this group, my sub "Persistence"
> > wouldn't be a few months away from launching. It would still be just a
> > dream.
> >
> > Don't knock it until you tried it for a while!
> >
> > Above all, don't try reading between my lines. There is nothing to find
> > in between them.
> > I mean what I say and say what I mean.
> >
> > Again,welcome aboard,
> > Dan H.
> >
> > Maybe this response should have been off the list. If you think so, I
> > apologize.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gail Paleka <mailto:gailpaleka@yahoo.com>
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > <mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court
> >
> > Carl,
> >
> > Now aren't you being just a little bit rude, presumptuous, and
> > condescending? How dare you talk down to "Fly Deep" like that? You
> > said you don't tolerate disrespect here; shouldn't you practice what
> > you preach?
> >
> > I knew if I waited long enough you'd trip yourself up; and it didn't
> > take long at all. Now, let's see if the group treats you like they
> > did me. I'll bet they wont. I'll bet they'll call me a bitch and
> > tell me to shut the hell up again. But they won't say anything to
you.
> >
> > Come on, PSUBS! Show us what you are really made of! The whole
> > world is watching.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Gail
> >
> >
> >
> > Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fly deep, what about you sub idea? From what I see so far, you
> > aren't
> > allthat aware of what to do when your sub is un-resurfacable.
IOW
> > you're on the bottom and the only way out is through the
> > hatch...into
> > the deep blue sea...and hopefully NOT into the tummy of a big
> > fish. How
> > do you plan on doing that without a scuttle valve? Open the
> > hatch? do
> > you even comprehend the pressure you're pushing against at a
> > mere 50'?
> > 20'? Way more than you can fight. Unless your hatch opens
inwards,
> > which alone is unsafe because of the very pressures we're
> > talking about.
> > So your hatch will have to open outwards, and you're gonna need
a
> > scuttle valve. Such is life, dude.
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > Fly Deep wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a way I can remove my self from this mailing list
> > but still
> > >
> > > go to the site and research pertinent information regarding !
> > the design
> > >
> > > and construction of submarines? I have no desire to flood a
> > submarine
> > >
> > > with freezing cold water and I seem to have accidentally
> > stumbled
> > >
> > > into the Yahoo personals without a picture to post.
> > >
> > >
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> >
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