Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve

["Adam Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>]

Good to hear it!
Remember, I never said anything about not having a valve.

Adam


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan H." <jmachine@adelphia.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve


> I beg to differ with you Adam!
>
> For the hundred dollars it cost to purchase and install one more item, a
> scuttle valve, that's cheep insurance.  It's one insurance that I hope I
> never have to use since, as you point out, there are many other steps to
be
> taken first.  No sense in "chewing on your arm" if you don't have to, but
> for a hundred dollars of investment, why not sharpen your teeth.
>
> My sub has a scuttle valve and I think it's worth having.  I'll also have
a
> dive plan, surface support, oxygen, CO2 scrubber, communication, drop
> weights, and did I mention escape vests and a scuttle valve to flood and
> exit as a LAST resort?
>
> Dan H.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
>
>
> > Just like scuba diving, would you go out sub diving all by your self?
No.
> > This is where planning your dive comes in to play. This is where having
> > several days of life support on board, comes into play. This is where
> > communications comes into play. You are still chewing on your arm. I can
> > understand leaving the sub if your building a sub to Carsten's
> proportions.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan H." <jmachine@adelphia.net>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
> >
> >
> > > Adam,
> > > Oh, but we do!
> > >
> > > Being entangled in something bigger then I can drag, or heavier then
my
> > drop
> > > weights is the primary reason to have a scuttle valve.  Anyone
designing
> a
> > > sub, worth his weight in water, has entanglement on his mind
> continuously.
> > > By that same reasoning, any designer worth his weight in water, would
> > > DISCUSS and design in a scuttle valve so, in spite of the best laid
> plans
> > of
> > > mice and men, he doesn't find himself entangled at ten feet below the
> > > surface DISCUSSING plans with his maker because external pressure is
> > > preventing him from getting his hatch open.
> > >
> > > Murphy's Law Happens
> > > Dan H.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>
> > > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
> > >
> > >
> > > > You guys should talk about designing your subs as to minimize there
> > > ability
> > > > to get hooked on things. And then designing rudders, manipulators,
and
> > > dive
> > > > planes that can be jettisoned. A sub is a system and you're an
> integral
> > > part
> > > > of it, why plan on chewing your arm off, instead, you should build a
> > > better
> > > > trap (sub) and know how to use it.
> > > >
> > > > Adam
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Coalbunny" <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > > > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I would suggest also having some form of floatation.  What I have
> > > > > learned is when you're surfacing, you have to let some air out of
> your
> > > > > lungs or they'll burst.  So have something you can exhale into or
> some
> > > > > form of floatation becuase when you let air out of your lungs
you're
> > > > > also decreasing your floatability.
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NeophyteSG@aol.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 3/8/04 6:21:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > > > jmachine@adelphia.net writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     If
> > > > > >     your taking to long to get out you'll have to make
> decompression
> > > > > >     stops on
> > > > > >     your way up.  Not possible when you escaped with just two
> lungs
> > > full
> > > > > >     of air.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All the more reason to have a bailout bottle onboard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *****
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Call nothing thy own except thy soul.
> > > > > > Love not what thou art, but only what thou may become.
> > > > > > Do not pursue pleasure, for thou may have the misfortune to
> overtake
> > > > it...
> > > > > > Live in the vision of that one for whom great deeds are done
..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Man of LaMancha, D. Wasserman
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > "By the side of religion, by the side of science, by the side of
> > poetry,
> > > > > stands natural beauty.  Not as a rival to these, but as the common
> > > > > inspirer and nourisher of them all." -- G. M. Trevelyan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>