Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve

["Dan H." <jmachine@adelphia.net>]

I beg to differ with you Adam!

For the hundred dollars it cost to purchase and install one more item, a
scuttle valve, that's cheep insurance.  It's one insurance that I hope I
never have to use since, as you point out, there are many other steps to be
taken first.  No sense in "chewing on your arm" if you don't have to, but
for a hundred dollars of investment, why not sharpen your teeth.

My sub has a scuttle valve and I think it's worth having.  I'll also have a
dive plan, surface support, oxygen, CO2 scrubber, communication, drop
weights, and did I mention escape vests and a scuttle valve to flood and
exit as a LAST resort?

Dan H.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve


> Just like scuba diving, would you go out sub diving all by your self? No.
> This is where planning your dive comes in to play. This is where having
> several days of life support on board, comes into play. This is where
> communications comes into play. You are still chewing on your arm. I can
> understand leaving the sub if your building a sub to Carsten's
proportions.
>
> Adam
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan H." <jmachine@adelphia.net>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
>
>
> > Adam,
> > Oh, but we do!
> >
> > Being entangled in something bigger then I can drag, or heavier then my
> drop
> > weights is the primary reason to have a scuttle valve.  Anyone designing
a
> > sub, worth his weight in water, has entanglement on his mind
continuously.
> > By that same reasoning, any designer worth his weight in water, would
> > DISCUSS and design in a scuttle valve so, in spite of the best laid
plans
> of
> > mice and men, he doesn't find himself entangled at ten feet below the
> > surface DISCUSSING plans with his maker because external pressure is
> > preventing him from getting his hatch open.
> >
> > Murphy's Law Happens
> > Dan H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
> >
> >
> > > You guys should talk about designing your subs as to minimize there
> > ability
> > > to get hooked on things. And then designing rudders, manipulators, and
> > dive
> > > planes that can be jettisoned. A sub is a system and you're an
integral
> > part
> > > of it, why plan on chewing your arm off, instead, you should build a
> > better
> > > trap (sub) and know how to use it.
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Coalbunny" <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valve
> > >
> > >
> > > > I would suggest also having some form of floatation.  What I have
> > > > learned is when you're surfacing, you have to let some air out of
your
> > > > lungs or they'll burst.  So have something you can exhale into or
some
> > > > form of floatation becuase when you let air out of your lungs you're
> > > > also decreasing your floatability.
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NeophyteSG@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/8/04 6:21:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > > jmachine@adelphia.net writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >     If
> > > > >     your taking to long to get out you'll have to make
decompression
> > > > >     stops on
> > > > >     your way up.  Not possible when you escaped with just two
lungs
> > full
> > > > >     of air.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the more reason to have a bailout bottle onboard.
> > > > >
> > > > > *****
> > > > >
> > > > > "Call nothing thy own except thy soul.
> > > > > Love not what thou art, but only what thou may become.
> > > > > Do not pursue pleasure, for thou may have the misfortune to
overtake
> > > it...
> > > > > Live in the vision of that one for whom great deeds are done ..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Man of LaMancha, D. Wasserman
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "By the side of religion, by the side of science, by the side of
> poetry,
> > > > stands natural beauty.  Not as a rival to these, but as the common
> > > > inspirer and nourisher of them all." -- G. M. Trevelyan
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>