ARRR!! Hear, hear, mateys! Let us get the woman on board, give 'er a bikini, dispense with the scuttlebutt and get back to talking SUBS!! Shiver me timbers!
Gail,
I certainly don't want to get between you and Carl, especially when fists and finger nails are swinging around, but!
The way Fly Deep commented about a scuttle valve, by bowing out of the list insinuating we're a bunch of fools for our "desire to flood a submarine with freezing cold water," when clearly he has no idea when, or why, a person would do that, he was asking for everything Carl handed him. Yes, I agree, it did sound condescending,and if Carl didn't mean it that he should have.
We have had many come and go from the list. That's nothing new. The ones that come in to learn and then contribute are a real asset. Some of them get tired and move on also. Folks come and go but the ones that benefit most are then ones that come in, sit themselves down, and observe for a while. We learn much more from listening then talking about things we don't know.
Having said that, let me welcome you to the group. We probably have a few other women here but I don't know. It's nice to see you post as one. I know several women in engineering but none of them are interested in subs. I'm sure you will be able to contribute and be an active part of the group if you want to. Just relax, take it a bit easier and enjoy the comradery. You'll learn a lot and we probably will too. If it wasn't for the internet and this group, my sub "Persistence" wouldn't be a few months away from launching. It would still be just a dream.
Don't knock it until you tried it for a while!
Above all, don't try reading between my lines. There is nothing to find in between them.
I mean what I say and say what I mean.
Again,welcome aboard,
Dan H.
Maybe this response should have been off the list. If you think so, I apologize.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court
Carl,
Now aren't you being just a little bit rude, presumptuous, and condescending? How dare you talk down to "Fly Deep" like that? You said you don't tolerate disrespect here; shouldn't you practice what you preach?
I knew if I waited long enough you'd trip yourself up; and it didn't take long at all. Now, let's see if the group treats you like they did me. I'll bet they wont. I'll bet they'll call me a bitch and tell me to shut the hell up again. But they won't say anything to you.
Come on, PSUBS! Show us what you are really made of! The whole world is watching.
Best,
Gail
Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com> wrote:
Fly deep, what about you sub idea? From what I see so far, you aren't
allthat aware of what to do when your sub is un-resurfacable. IOW
you're on the bottom and the only way out is through the hatch...into
the deep blue sea...and hopefully NOT into the tummy of a big fish. How
do you plan on doing that without a scuttle valve? Open the hatch? do
you even comprehend the pressure you're pushing against at a mere 50'?
20'? Way more than you can fight. Unless your hatch opens inwards,
which alone is unsafe because of the very pressures we're talking about.
So your hatch will have to open outwards, and you're gonna need a
scuttle valve. Such is life, dude.
Carl
Fly Deep wrote:
> Is there a way I can remove my self from this mailing list but still
>
> go to the site and research pertinent information regarding ! the
design
>
> and construction of submarines? I have no desire to flood a submarine
>
> with freezing cold water and I seem to have accidentally stumbled
>
> into the Yahoo personals without a picture to post.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster.
>
--
"By the side of religion, by the side of science, by the side of poetry,
stands natural beauty. Not as a rival to these, but as the common
inspirer and nourisher of them all." -- G. M. Trevelyan
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!