Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUBS library?

[DJACKSON99@aol.com]

Howdy Ray

I'm pretty sure a knowledgeable librarian would have a solid answer.  And you would not have to allow the person to download the image, they could view it online, only. But perhapse the ebooks technology has some sort of expiration tecnology. Of course you can always copy anything if you really want it, but then I can do that with a real book from the library too. --Doug J

In a message dated 1/9/2004 8:07:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM writes:

> Hi Doug,
> 
> Time to talk to a lawyer. By the time we pay for their opinion we could buy a few dozen books.
> 
> How do we make sure an individual does not make his own electronic copy?
> 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> DJACKSON99@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > Would it be legal to place scanned images of the books online and only checkout the password  for accessing the online image to one individual at a time, while the real book sits on the shelf? --Doug J
> > 
> > In a message dated 1/9/2004 1:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM writes:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The topic of a PSUBS Library has been discussed before. It was even discussed in the proposed Charter (http://www.psubs.org/charter.html) back in 1998.
> > >
> > > The big problem is that I don't have enough time to keep up on web site as it is. Managing a library with all its shipping, prodding, begging, tracking is going to be a major headache. So who do we all trust to be librarian? Any voluteers?
> > >
> > > The biggest fear is these books tend to be a bit hard to find. Not quite rare but hard to find, unavailable or out of print. What then? Do we charge a deposit? How do we replace a unreplacable book?
> > >
> > > I am game to hash this topic around for a while to see what we can colectively work out.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian Roxborough wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I believe I've heard this idea kicked around before, but I wasn't
> > > > able to find anything in the mailing list archives.
> > > >
> > > > But, what about a PSUBS library?  Where you can checkout a book
> > > > by mail and when you're finished you mail it onto the next person.
> > > > The last time I looked there seemed to a number of open source
> > > > software projects/applications for managing book collections and loans.
> > > >
> > > > I would be willing to donate a copy of the new "Handbook of Acrylics"
> > > > book (with the 2 CDs), possibly some other books to get things
> > > > started.
> > > >
> > > > This would, of course, be ran on the honors systems, but with
> > > > maybe some basic guidelines to help avoid books getting lost,
> > > > such as return the book before moving house (the main time I
> > > > seem to loose books....).  People borrowing books need to pay
> > > > postage.
> > > >
> > > > What do we needed?
> > > >   - a place to host a library website (or book list, or whatever).
> > > >   - some people to play librarians, maintain the book(s) list, etc.
> > > >     maybe with serval volunteers it could be a rotating duty.
> > > >   - rugged and reusable shipping/mailing containers so books can
> > > >     be mailed many times without too much wear and tear.
> > > >   - ???
> > > >
> > > > Is this of interest any psubbers?
> > > >
> > > > I don't really have time to set this up or run it, but I do believe
> > > > all psubbers need access to these books.  Even if it's just while
> > > > they save up for there own copy.
> > > >
> > > > On a side note, I don't believe a psubs 'mail order' library
> > > > is any replacement for owning these books.  If you are designing
> > > > a 1 ATM submersible yourself, budget for $1000 to 
> $1500
> > > for
> > > > buying books.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >   Ian.