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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Speculation...



Hi Rick.. 

- Dry-ambient for divers only.. 

- 1 Atm. for four persons = heavy.. 

( in general 0,5 - 1 t per person..) Typical: 
1 seater 0,5 - 1,5 ts
2 Seater 2,0 -2,8 ts Displacement.

The smallest 3 seater I even saw was "Tadpole" -its on the picture
gallery - was 2,8 t. There is no way to make it lighter  with
"waterballast" - The dry space/volume a person need is the border.. 

The only other solution is a very fast light 1atm dynamic diving 
boat with can be push under water by high power force.. 
.. but you will see nothing underwater at higher speed. 
But you can save the portholes and domes cost.. 

regards Carsten

> Raven93 schrieb:
> 
> Greetings:
> 
>     Well, being a new guy I guess I can get away with asking something
> that has probably already been discussed, maybe more than once.
>     When are submarines going to go mainstream?  When will I commonly
> see people trailering their sub to the lake?  Will they ever be even
> half as popular as surface craft.  And the biggy, what sort of design
> would it take?
>     First off, I don't think one of these super-heavy types we're
> seeing will ever catch on.  Nobody wants to give the old Vitara a
> hernia trying to budge one.  Plus, if you consider you're looking at
> $50000 to $60000 to build a KA-350, IF you do as much of the work
> yourself as you can, the average guy won't opt in.
>     So what about a lightweight design made of composites framed up
> something like an old tube and fabric airplane?  Yeah, ballast will be
> a MAJOR issue.  How about water ballast, maybe combined with some
> lead?  Flood and blow?
>     Another thing, most people aren't divers like me.  They'll want a
> dry sub, and enough room to take the fam for a cruise.  And they'll
> want a trailerable boat.  And being a diver, I can tell you now I'd
> rather free swim with scuba gear than ride in a wet sub.
>     There is a design, it just has to be thought of.  And when it is,
> submarines will become a popular sport beyond us compulsive tinkerers
> and dreamers, a sport within reach of the average working guy for
> weekend entertainment.
>     Has anyone looked at adapting airplane building techniques to
> submarines?  So far, heavy and traditional has not brought about the
> "everyman sub".  Maybe going in a totally unexpected direction is the
> answer to finding the design.  Just some thoughts.  I might be crazy,
> ha ha!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Rick...