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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUBS Standards Committee now forming: contact Doug Farrow at SeaLordOne@aol.com
http://www.gl-group.com/cgi-bin/w/w3red?SET=FACTS
and found this links also..
http://www.bretagne-online.com/telegram/htdocs/archive/2000/20000326/LOCALES_29N_TD/article/art_0106090601_901869.htm
http://www.scubaland.fr/page_report5.html
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http://www.sisl.ch/clarens/images/sous-marin.gif
regards Carsten
> >Hugo Marrero's white paper entitled "do we need safety standards for private
> >submersibles?" generated some interesting discussion at this year's PSUBS
> >convention. My take on the conclusion was, yes we need them, but no, PSUBS does
> >not currently have the resources to take on such a major project. What we can
> >do, today, is to collect, organize, describe, and recommend existing industry
> >standards. We can put a "safety standards" section on the PSUB's website that
> >will educate our community about the current industry standards and show
> >everyone where they may obtain copies of these standards.
> >
> >I have volunteered to lead a committee to generate this information. This is
> >an "ad hoc" committee, meaning that unless something changes, it will
> >dissolve once we deliver our final products. While the final products will be
> >determined by the will, size, and talents of the committee, I do have a working
> >vision of the sorts of products we will deliver:
> >
> >1. A listing of the titles of the current version of the primary
> >submersibles
> > standards and guidelines.
> >2. A summary of the documents, and where/how to obtain a copy.
> >3. A paper discussing related topics. Do I certify my boat? If so, how?
> >What is
> > involved? How much does it cost? What do I do about insurance?
> >
> >That is my initial take on the final products. An initial listing of
> >standards I have found on my own includes:
> >
> >1. Rules for building and classing underwater vehicles, systems and
> >hyperbaric facilities (2002): American Bureau of Shipping.
> >
> >2. Rules and regulations for the construction and classification of
> >submersibles and underwater systems (1989): Lloyd's register.
> >
> >3. Guidelines for the design, construction and operation of passenger
> >submersible craft (2001): International Maritime Organization (United Nations
> >
> > Organization).
> >
> >4. Safety standards for pressue vessels for human occupancy (2002):
> >American Society for Mechanical Engineers.
> >
> >5. Guidance for the certification of passenger carrying submersibles
> >(1993): United States Coast Guard.
> >
> >The committee, once formed, can get into a discussion of how far we want to
> >spread out looking for standards. The offshore drilling industry has
> >guidelines for its submersibles (Association of Offshore Diving Contractrors) for
> >example. The Welding Research Council has guidelines for steel. Do we want to
> >include those as well? We do need to put some limits on how far we will take
> >this. For myself, I would rather deliver on a modest goal than fail to deliver
> >on an ambitious one.
> >
> >How will we organize and manage this project? For today, I am putting out
> >this call for volunteers. Later I will put out a call for standards, to tap
> >into the knowledge base of the entire PSUBS community. We will begin our work as
> >a community by simply sending e-mails to one another. Each member of the
> >committee will send all comments to the entire committee.
> >
> >I am hoping the group will in time include at least a couple of people with
> >enough technical savvy to move us into some more efficient, collaborative,
> >web-based communication method. But to get us started, I am simply asking those
> >who want to participate on the PSUBS Standards Committee to send me an e-mail
> >at SeaLordOne@aol.com.
> >
> >Please indicate any knowledge, skills or expretise you have that may be of
> >particular relevance to this project, and any resources (technical,
> >informational or managerail) you may be able to bring to the table. If all you have to
> >bring to the table is a desire to assist the community, well, that is quite
> >enough indeed. A lot of this work will invlove simpy reading and summarizing
> >existing standards. The distribution of labor will depend on the size and
> >diversity of the group who volunteers. We need to have our final product up and
> >running prior to the next annual convention.
> >
> >Ray has agreed to serve on the committee. This assures us of the PSUBS seal
> >of approval, and also provides the requisite level of adult supervision for me
> >and the chaps who sign up for the group.
> >
> >Who is with me on this?
> >
> >'Doug Farrow