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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] fascinating stories



My boat will be concrete (ferro-cement) so it will be able to take quite a bit of punishment.   Not that I would not be reckless however.

Brian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Coalbunny" <coalbunny@vcn.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] fascinating stories


> I sure wouldn't use the bottom for trim.  I'm no expert on the
> structural integrity of these machines, but I imagine if you kissed the
> bottom enough, the integrity could at some point become fatigued or
> compromised.  Even it is is *just sand*.  Travelling too close to
> hazardous wreckage is not a show of skill, instead more like showing
> stupidity.  In my humble, though uneducated, opinion that is.
> Carl
> 
> 
> Brian Cox wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks!  Very good story.  My boat is going to be so long (20') I might need that trick !
> > 
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carsten Standfuss" <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] fascinating stories
> > 
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > Brian Cox schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > Carsten,  Please don't stop building  but if you get a chance -
> > > >
> > > > I would like to hear :   How to trim a passenger sub with the friendly kindness of the
> > > > seabottom (Gran Canaria tourist sub)-
> > > >
> > > > Brian Cox
> > >
> > > Just finished the last cut out for the stainless steel freshwater tank.
> > > And cut a died tree in the garden in small pieces for or oven.. oil and
> > > gas are expensive here.. and winter time is coming quick.
> > >
> > > Its over midnight here but I am not tired and so I will tell also this
> > > story.. ;-)
> > >
> > > It was 2 years ago.. - one times a year my old studie-colleges and I
> > > went for 3-5 days somewere to drink a beer or two - without our wifes
> > > childs, dogs, cats, submarines or other parts of our families..
> > >
> > > Normally we go sailing, windsurfing or para gliding or something like
> > > that. But in this year we decide to go to Gran Canaria just to looking
> > > into the sun.. and for colleges without wifes -looking for beach girls.
> > >
> > > So we sitting on the beach - some guys looking for the nicce topless
> > > girls - but I am married so I looking to the sea.. and saw a submarine
> > > surfacing !! Much more intressting -  A yellow one.
> > >
> > > http://www.fh-augsburg.de/~bommel/pages/Submarine.htm
> > >
> > > I research that and found out that in the harbour next to our beach is a
> > > basis for a tourist submarine.
> > >
> > > For the reason that I never was inisde of one - and for the reason that
> > > I want to learn how they trim this dammed slow and underpowerd huge
> > > steel units.. All time other passengers - other weights - other seating
> > > positions.. so I purchased a 48 USD/euro ticket and go in.
> > >
> > > The vessel went out of the harbour and I managed my seat just behind the
> > > boths pilots..
> > >
> > > The pilot press some buttons.. some vales get open - obviously the
> > > forward tanks more than the aft tanks. After a couple of minutes - the
> > > boat hit the bottom in 18 m deep ( 60 feet) with the forward protector -
> > > just in front of the pilot. The pilot press another button - maybe to
> > > controll a pump.  Until the time the forward protector lifted a little
> > > from the seafloor he stop to press the button and the boat was in
> > > trim.....
> > >
> > > After this procedure he start to drive the boat to the old in two parts
> > > broken fishing trawler wreck - and travel with a distance of below 2
> > > meter (6 feet) between the parts !
> > >
> > > I was not impressed by the way they trim the boat out.. but I was really
> > > impressed how close they drive this 109 ts monster to the sharp steel
> > > rests of the wreck.
> > >
> > > It is maybe a goo idear not to purchase a ticket for a tourist sub in a
> > > area were the seabottom is deeper than then maximum work deep of the
> > > boat..
> > >
> > > Good night sleep well... Carsten
> > >
> > >
> 
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