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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] a Backyard Project ? : )



Good point Steven!

But since I live at about one hour from the border, I will do a test run
before the convention. Just to be sure...

Pierre Poulin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Mills" <barycenter@earthlink.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] a Backyard Project ? : )


> >From: Pierre Poulin <pipo305@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Right Carl,
> >
> > I'm soooo eager to try to cross that border in august with my psub... I
> > think I will video tape that "special" moment to show at the convention!
> >
> > Pierre
>
> I'd like to see that video, too.  However, if you do this, be careful.
> There was a case here where a person video-taped an incident
> with a cop [ I don't recall whether it was a routine traffic stop ] not
> living up to the standards of being a *civil* servant.  It was used as
> evidence in court. The officer claimed "invasion of privacy" despite
> the fact; he is a *public servant",  "on duty", "in a public place", and
> and confronting "John Q. Public" prior to the I.D.   The camera and
> video tape were confiscated and the judge ruled in favor of the
> police officer!
>
> You might want to be inconspicuous and discrete while taping any
> incidents at the Canadian-US border and thereafter.  Start taping
> at home at the point of departure and say you're doing a Docu-Journal
> for your trip to the pSub convention and not just a specific incident.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] a Backyard Project ?  : )
> > >Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 08:29:07 -0600
> > >
> > >Now you guys hold on there!  Don't need to be telling this stuff.  It's
> > >been that easy for over 20-30 years.  This should have been common
> > >knowledge long ago.  Now with this, it's gonna be far easier for the
> > >government to regulate psubs a lot more.  Launch one of them homemade
> > >cruise missiles from a psub and you're gone.  They can't find you, but
> > >you can hit them.  Good bye psub.  They'll make them illegal "just
> > >because" of the potential.
> > >
> > >I best shut up before I tell of other easy ways terrorists could hit
the
> > >USA with, but are too chicken to do it.
> > >Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Steven Mills wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Someone on this list from New Zealand?  Have you heard of this?
> > > >
> > > > I was doing a search on thrusters and propulsion and came across
> > > > this little tidbit !
> > > >
> > > > --Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=8&u=/nm/2003
0605/od_nm/newzealand_missile_dc
> > > >
> > > > Building a Cruise Missile in His Backyard
> > > > Thu Jun 5, 9:26 AM ET  Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WELLINGTON (Reuters) - A New Zealand handyman with a passion for jet
> > >engines says he is building a cruise missile in his backyard using
parts
> > >and technology freely available over the Internet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bruce Simpson, a 49-year-old Internet site developer, has a site
> > >entitled "A DIY Cruise Missile" on which he says he was prompted to
build
> > >the missile because so many people had told him it could not easily be
> > >done.
> > > >
> > > > "I decided to put my money where my mouth is and build a cruise
missile
> > >in my garage, on a budget of just US$5,000," he said on his Web site
> > >(www.interestingprojects.com).
> > > >
> > > > "I like to think of this project as a military version of 'Junkyard
> > >Wars'," he says referring to a television program about teams building
big
> > >machines from scrapyard materials.
> > > >
> > > > He said he would publish step-by-step instructions on his Web site
about
> > >how to make the jet-powered missile, which would be able to fly 100 km
(60
> > >miles) from his home, north of the main city of Auckland, in less than
15
> > >minutes.
> > > >
> > > > The missile could carry a small warhead weighing 10 kg (22 lb),
would be
> > >hard to detect on radar, and would be impossible for the New Zealand
Air
> > >Force to stop, Simpson said.
> > > >
> > > > "Obviously the goal is not to provide terrorists or other nefarious
> > >types with plans for a working cruise missile but to prove the point
that
> > >nations need to be prepared for this type of sophisticated attack from
> > >within their own borders."
> > > >
> > > > The New Zealand Herald newspaper reported Simpson had imported a
radio
> > >control transmitter, global positioning equipment, and a flight control
> > >system, among other things, without encountering problems from New
Zealand
> > >customs.
> > > >
> > > > "We are aware of the initiative," a Defense Force spokesman told
> > >Reuters, but declined any further comment.
> > >
> > >--
> > >"Indeed, desire is the seed of thought, the prime force that activates
> > >the mechanism of the mind." -- Kama Sutra
> >
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