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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alternative hull material



If anybody wants a real idea of what composites can do, go to the Deepflight web page and take a look at the Aviator.
 
http://www.deepflight.com
 
As I am building my vehicle I will try to keep everybody updated on the tests that I am doing.  I will also be asking for people to act very negative (devil's advocate), so as to make sure if there is any aspect of testing that I might have forgotten. 
 
The main reason for the composites, is to get the vehicle the way I want it.  I want a sub that is not only good looking but efficient, and I don't see that with traditionally shaped hulls and super structures.  I could be completely off base, we will see. 
 
It is going to be quite a while before I start building.  I am still in the research stage.
 
Thanks for your ear.
 
Tim R.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thijs Struijs [mailto:thijs-struijs@planet.nl]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:08 PM
To: PSUBS
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alternative hull material

Michael (2x),
 
I considered building a sub out of GRP (glass-polyesther). This is easier to handle than kevlar-epoxy and a lot cheaper. I changed my mind because both materials have unknown specs. The strenght depends on a lot of factors such as the know-how of the builder, the quality of the resin, the way different types of cloth are used and so on.  It can be done of course, the LR5 is a good example. But for an amateur like me i thouhgt it would be far more simple and cheaper to use steel. When you use steel you can simply have a look in the books and find out how to make the details such as though-hulls, viewports and so on. 
    
Another problem is formed by the unknown decline of the material as a result of water pentrated in the laminate. This means that you can do an unmanned pressure test but you will never know in what condition it is after a view years. If you use A516 you can be sure that after a hundred years it's still the same A516 steel. 
 
 
Thijs Struijs