Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ideas and learning

["Herve" <caribsub@coqui.net>]

i would like to comment here once and for all, about the misconception on
patents, copyrights and ideas.
Let me be straight: Ideas worth zip, nada, nothing, que dalle. You cannot
patent, copyright, protect, claim , use commercially or even sell  an idea.
So if anybody thought to become rich with an idea, forget it, it s not going
to happen.
Once you get to a working design, a reproductible principle, a math formula,
an invention, or something realistic that is WORKING, then we are talking.
And We are not there yet, after that you have to finance it and market it
which as much difficult than invention itself.
So when somebody shows up out of the blue with a revolutionary idea on this
forum he should be prepared and have some "back up" materials otherwise i
dont think it is disrespectfull to laugh at him, it s called criticism,
however i dont think anybody who just trashes or ignores the most elementary
laws of physics wants to learn anything.
if not what does it mean? i have an idea and i learn later how to realize
it, it does not make any sens. An ivention requires first knowledge, then an
idea.
Do you think any idiot could find out about Gravity just by looking at an
apple fall from a tree. The guy who found out did it because of an extensive
knowledge in maths.
Respect commands for those who wants to learn to question those who know,
and stay quite about crazy ideas until they know at least as much otherwise
face ridicule and mokery. An ignorant is never about to invent anything and
it is insulting to all those who have been brainstorming and studying for
years to claim otherwise
Herve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Roxborough" <irox@ix.netcom.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OSS License


> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:52:43 +0800
> "Warrend Greenway" <dub@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>
> > Well, I don't see how we can prevent the commercial use of good
> > ideas that we post publicly.
>
> That's similar to saying we can't prevent people using GPL'd code
> in proprietry products.  We can prevent the commercial use of
> our ideas because they are our IP.  This is how we can do things
> like decide to license our ideas under the GPL, we can just as
> easily license our ideas under a license forbidding commercial use.
>
> Previously I've pointed out that if we imposs commercial restrictions
> then it's not really open source and we can not use the GPL to
> license our ideas.  Carsten has said he will not contribute unless
> this is a non-commercial use project (correct me if I'm wrong), I
> believe this was to due to worries about liability law (which differ
> from country to country).