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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get out of this email group:...Side Bar
Hello Dan,
Where is this going? I don't know. It's just the beginning. I
believe part
of this was meant to rally the members, hands-on members,
like
yourself, and the wishful thinkers like me and so many others
to
participate in an endeavor that could give real insights in
the processes
of designing and, at least on paper, the construction of a
real pSub.
It will certainly be a *test* in how well we cooperate with
one another
and how we gather our personal resources to see this project
to
completion. Anybody who wants to participate should be able
to, but
this shouldn't turn in to such a monster as to overshadow the
original
purpose and theme of the pSubs forum and leave some members
with
their questions and comments without answers and feedback or
some
response, therefore feeling left-out or
overlooked.
( I don't think any member would let this happen
).
As far as the *age* thing, I don't think this should be a
concern. I
haven't reached that government prescribed retirement age yet,
but
I can tell you some of the local merchants here give me a
senior
citizen's discount without asking me first ( or my I.D. ). I
protested
at first, but they still give it to me...Hey ...I'll take the
discount! And
the coup de gras was when a young woman in the later stages
of
pregnancy offered me her seat on a bus....Jeez...do I look
that bad!
I say if you got pencil, paper, and a brain then you qualify.
The interest
in pSubs is implied and a given or you wouldn't be on this
forum.
Heck, I still have my K&E slide rule that I use quite
often especially
when there is a power failure or the batteries to my
calculator go out.
And I don't plan to retire, so I'm going to chug along until
the batteries
in *me* go out :-)
I think if you don't consider participation in this project
then we would lose
a valuable resource and years of experience and wisdom. As I
said, this is
just starting-out. Even if the ground rules were to be laid
and tasks assigned
I can guarantee it will change over time. I haven't seen a
project that
didn't undergo change over time.
Well, don't think too hard about this...just hop in and give
it a whirl.
Thanks, --Steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:44
AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get
out of this email group:...Side Bar
Steve,
As far as I'm concerned, you enthusiasm is
great. For years this group has been made up of a "hot and heavy few"
with a bunch of sideliners following along. That's normal. Many
join in of a while and then fade to the side to return when the situation fits
again. A good healthy mix.
I used to do a lot of mechanical
design. I still do some but I'm must say, I'm from the old
school. When, to be doing anything with electronics involved,
meant you used a hand held calculator. I have dabbled
with AutoCAD some but still feel just as comfortable with a drafting
machine. I can hear the young guys now. Wow! An actual
living dinosaur, and he's part of this group too. Truth be
told , I bet I'm not the only one.
My point is I would appreciate a little clear
explanation of what this is all about as it's evolving if possible. I
know you all don't have the time to bring an old guy up to speed totally, but
we on this list are from many different backgrounds and may not understand
what is coming together and where we could contribute unless things are lied
out clearly.
I'm sure I can contribute something, if only
to point out some of the pitfalls of constructing the K-350 I now have 3/4
complete. I'm not interested in building another sub but
will help the project where I can.
Thanks for listening, Dan H.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:05
AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get
out of this email group:...Side Bar
I hope all this talk and discussion about Linux,
programming,
sensing devices...etc., hasn't ostracized anyone
or cause a
sense of exclusion.
I know I can get caught up in the excitement and prospects
of an
interesting project. I know this is not the intent
of the current thread
about "Open Source Submarine".
I have found myself at times in the sidelines observing
and reading
email, wishing I could comment or
suggest something, but not
knowing enough or not having the
understanding enough to ask
meaningful questions. ( That does not imply that " I " feel excluded
personally...I don't ! ). Learning is part of the process here on
pSubs
and sometimes I find sitting back, taking it all in gives
me new material
to research. This forum has kept me quite busy and often
up late at
night reading, thinking, and gives me the incentive to
create new concepts
and ideas.
Well, I hope I'm not out-of-line in my comments here or
too sentimental
or pollyannish. If I'm reading this all wrong then my
apologies.
Bruno, I hope you're not leaving due to feeling frustrated
in some way.
If you're here for subs then I say you're in the right
place. If not then
send an email to:
(write the message, without the stars)
*unsubscribe personal_submersibles*
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:25
PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get
out of this email group
explaine how i can get out of this email
group please