Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Getting Respect

[Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>]

That's ALL you have for pics?  man.  Love to see some underwater stuff.  
Carl


Ray Keefer wrote:
> 
> Hi Ricci,
> 
> Your pictures are posted at http://www.psubs.org/pic/ricci_dustin.html
> 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> > Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:12:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Ricci Dustin <riccidustin@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Getting Respect
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >
> > Gentleman;
> > Thank you for your feedback regarding
> > acrylic/scrubbers. I had a very interesting meeting
> > with Will Konen engineer and builder of the Seamobile
> > submarine. Will revealed to me that early on in his
> > effort to procure parts for his first submarine a
> > supplier of custom acrylics did not even respond to
> > his bid request! (just another wacko submarine
> > project). To Will's credit this did not deter him. He
> > now builds his own proprietary acrylic sphere that
> > meets ABS requirements at 1/3 the cost! He does offer
> > this service to others as well. As a side note an
> > "employee" at the company contacted him after seeing
> > some press on his completed submarine. The "employee"
> > was curious as to why he hadn't explored working with
> > his company!!!!
> >
> > Pardon me if I sound like a commercial but after my
> > visit at the Seamagine Hydrospace headquarters I came
> > to realize that the psub they manufacture is nothing
> > short of incredible. The engineering features and
> > innovations make this the most practical, insurable,
> > ABS, and Coast Guard approved psub on the market! It
> > handles like a car and is extremely stable. Test drive
> > it anytime either in Cayman, or Catalina during the
> > summer tourist season! I sent some pictures to Ray
> > that were taken at depth from inside the pressure
> > hull. He may be posting them soon.
> > Best regards;
> > Ricci
> >
> > --- Mark Steed <plutomark@mail.astate.edu> wrote:
> > > Excellent-Well put.    Mark Steed
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > From: Dan h <machine@epix.net>
> > > Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > Date:  Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:56:15 -0400
> > >
> > > >Finding people to take us seriously and give us and
> > > our projects the
> > > >respect we think we deserve isn't always easy. The
> > > discussion on dealing
> > > >with suppliers of view ports is a great example.
> > > It's a frustration, I
> > > >know, from both sides.
> > > >
> > > >Sometimes it's hard to get a supplier to take you
> > > seriously.  I hate to
> > > >say, but I know I'm guilty of glossing over some
> > > requests put to me that
> > > >I see as "never gonna materialize" also.  There are
> > > two separate reasons
> > > >this happens in my shop.
> > > >
> > > >One, I try to screen the end use of what I am asked
> > > to produce as to my
> > > >liability level verses dollar gain.  That is to
> > > say, if I can generate a
> > > >thousand dollars producing hooks for hanging
> > > harmless laundry bags ten
> > > >inches off the floor, why get involved with
> > > producing hooks for bungy
> > > >cords, hanging people a hundred feet off the
> > > ground?  I have equal gain
> > > >with either job.
> > > >
> > > >Second, am I getting involved with a job that the
> > > customer doesn't have
> > > >a clear cut idea of his needs?  He may think he
> > > does, but, do I think he
> > > >does?  These are usually the cases where I get a
> > > lot of time involved
> > > >and the job doesn't materialize anyway.  It doesn't
> > > materialize because
> > > >the customer, not knowing what he's asking for,
> > > isn't prepared for the
> > > >price tag to get what he actually needs and in a
> > > way I feel safe making
> > > >it for him.
> > > >
> > > >As most of you that are actually building a sub
> > > have probably already
> > > >found out, sometimes you get better results if you
> > > don't even mention
> > > >the word "submarine" unless it's really pertinent
> > > to your request.
> > > >Sometimes to much information just clouds the
> > > water.  Convey only what
> > > >you need to and with the confidence your potential
> > > supplier needs to
> > > >hear.
> > > >
> > > >My point is, do your homework.  Know what you
> > > actually need.  Sometimes
> > > >it's good to contact a supplier that you don't
> > > think you want to use
> > > >anyway, just to gain knowledge and experience from
> > > someone in that
> > > >field.  Approach it like going on a job interview
> > > where you don't care
> > > >about actually getting the job.  After all, when
> > > dealing with anyone, to
> > > >gain credibility, we first must learn how to best
> > > sell ourselves.
> > > >
> > > >Credentials may be required in some situations, I
> > > realize that, but if
> > > >you did your homework and sell your request, you
> > > should be able to find
> > > >someone to look things over and stamp the papers.
> > > >
> > > >Food for thought, Dan H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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