Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Getting Respect

[Ricci Dustin <riccidustin@yahoo.com>]

Gentleman;
Thank you for your feedback regarding
acrylic/scrubbers. I had a very interesting meeting
with Will Konen engineer and builder of the Seamobile
submarine. Will revealed to me that early on in his
effort to procure parts for his first submarine a
supplier of custom acrylics did not even respond to
his bid request! (just another wacko submarine
project). To Will's credit this did not deter him. He
now builds his own proprietary acrylic sphere that
meets ABS requirements at 1/3 the cost! He does offer
this service to others as well. As a side note an
"employee" at the company contacted him after seeing
some press on his completed submarine. The "employee"
was curious as to why he hadn't explored working with
his company!!!! 

Pardon me if I sound like a commercial but after my
visit at the Seamagine Hydrospace headquarters I came
to realize that the psub they manufacture is nothing
short of incredible. The engineering features and
innovations make this the most practical, insurable,
ABS, and Coast Guard approved psub on the market! It
handles like a car and is extremely stable. Test drive
it anytime either in Cayman, or Catalina during the
summer tourist season! I sent some pictures to Ray
that were taken at depth from inside the pressure
hull. He may be posting them soon.
Best regards;
Ricci
 
--- Mark Steed <plutomark@mail.astate.edu> wrote:
> Excellent-Well put.    Mark Steed
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------
> From: Dan h <machine@epix.net>
> Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Date:  Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:56:15 -0400
> 
> >Finding people to take us seriously and give us and
> our projects the
> >respect we think we deserve isn't always easy. The
> discussion on dealing
> >with suppliers of view ports is a great example. 
> It's a frustration, I
> >know, from both sides.
> >
> >Sometimes it's hard to get a supplier to take you
> seriously.  I hate to
> >say, but I know I'm guilty of glossing over some
> requests put to me that
> >I see as "never gonna materialize" also.  There are
> two separate reasons
> >this happens in my shop.
> >
> >One, I try to screen the end use of what I am asked
> to produce as to my
> >liability level verses dollar gain.  That is to
> say, if I can generate a
> >thousand dollars producing hooks for hanging
> harmless laundry bags ten
> >inches off the floor, why get involved with
> producing hooks for bungy
> >cords, hanging people a hundred feet off the
> ground?  I have equal gain
> >with either job.
> >
> >Second, am I getting involved with a job that the
> customer doesn't have
> >a clear cut idea of his needs?  He may think he
> does, but, do I think he
> >does?  These are usually the cases where I get a
> lot of time involved
> >and the job doesn't materialize anyway.  It doesn't
> materialize because
> >the customer, not knowing what he's asking for,
> isn't prepared for the
> >price tag to get what he actually needs and in a
> way I feel safe making
> >it for him.
> >
> >As most of you that are actually building a sub
> have probably already
> >found out, sometimes you get better results if you
> don't even mention
> >the word "submarine" unless it's really pertinent
> to your request.
> >Sometimes to much information just clouds the
> water.  Convey only what
> >you need to and with the confidence your potential
> supplier needs to
> >hear.
> >
> >My point is, do your homework.  Know what you
> actually need.  Sometimes
> >it's good to contact a supplier that you don't
> think you want to use
> >anyway, just to gain knowledge and experience from
> someone in that
> >field.  Approach it like going on a job interview
> where you don't care
> >about actually getting the job.  After all, when
> dealing with anyone, to
> >gain credibility, we first must learn how to best
> sell ourselves.
> >
> >Credentials may be required in some situations, I
> realize that, but if
> >you did your homework and sell your request, you
> should be able to find
> >someone to look things over and stamp the papers.
> >
> >Food for thought, Dan H.
> >
> >
> >
>  
> 
>                    


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