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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
Allright guys I'm going to have to apoligize here. I didn't know a
conversation between metric and standard was like a conversation on God or no
God. I was expressing my opinion. Not fact. I wasn't forcing it on anyone, I
was just stating my opinion. So howsabouts we move on to more important
stuff, such as submarine development, metric, standard, or a little bit of
both.
Support your local zonenet
---------- Original Message -----------
From: Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:50:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> Ok Gentlemen,
>
> Since Standard AND Metric systems will exist together for at least my
> lifetime. You are going to have to just deal with it.
>
> Please take any further discussion offline.
>
> Regards,
> Ray
>
> > Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:25:42 -0600
> > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > X-Accept-Language: en
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Rob, perhaps people would have more respect for the environmental
> > community if representatives, such as yourself, could present themselves
> > without violence, threat or PROFANITY. Not all French are bad.
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > Rob Innes wrote:
> > >
> > > Right on Roger! Screw those French Bastards! I'm still mad about them
> sinking our Greenpeace flagship; the Rainbow Warrior. They blew a
> metric sized hole in her side. Incidentally, I'm diving on the wreck
> when I go back to New Zealand in January so I can check out the
> damage first hand. If we claim to be waging a war on Terror, let's
> start with the French!
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > ps. Rebuttal's welcome
> > >
> > > rjune@fuse.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK TIME FOR YOU TO GET OF YOUR HIGH HORSE
> > > >
> > > > Unbelievably, the silly dispute over the metric system still exists.
Given
> the particulars of the development and spread of the French system
> of measurement, any individual easily realizes the total absurdity
> of the metric system.
> > > >
> > > > Consider how the French of the 1700's were so intent on making an
> exact, standard measurement that could be replicated. They insisted
> on finding a standard in nature that would be unchanging for the
> base of the metric system. So the brilliant French scientists
> decided on measuring the length of an arc of a meridian that reaches
> from the North Pole to the Equator to determine the base of the new
> measuring system. The meter supposedly equals one ten-millionth the
> length of this quadrant. Yeah well, that is just plain bogus. The
> French scientists made two huge mistakes: first, the meridian is
> neither uniform nor unchanging and second, they screwed up with
> their complicated measurements and were actually 30 meters off.
> Consequently, the French's beloved metric system is actually solely
> based on a platinum bar made to the incorrect specifications of
> their measurements of a changing item of nature. Regardless of these
> glaring errors, the French made the metric system law o!
> > n !
> > !
> > Ap!
> > > ri!
> > > > l 7, 1795. Apparently, they were desperate to adopt a system of
weights
> and measures. French politicians and scientists had been working for
> at least 500 years by this time to organize a uniform system of
> measurement. The French General Assembly of 1302 first articulated
> their desired measuring conspiracy with their distasteful motto:
> "One King, one Law, one Weight, one Measure." In 1790, Charles-
> Maurice de Talleyrand, a member of France's Constituent Assembly,
> succeeded in persuading the French Academy of Sciences which
> claimed representatives from Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Denmark,
> and Switzerland to accept the metric system. Talleyrand wanted to do
> this because he believed if other countries helped to establish the
> metric system, then they would be more likely to adopt it
> themselves. Luckily, England declined the invitation and saved us
> from total measuring conformity directed by the French.
> > > >
> > > > Although the metric system is slowly creeping into US culture, we
have
> stood up to the French more than most other nations. Even though our
> monetary system is decimal and many stuffy old scientists may prefer
> the grams and meters, the US luckily retains her independence from
> the invasive French metric system.
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Problah" <problah@zonenet.net>
> > > > > Date: 2002/09/04 Wed PM 10:57:03 EDT
> > > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> > > > >
> > > > > Well it's not figuring out the fraction that's the problem, I just
> divide to
> > > > > give me a decimal value (still in inches thoe) It's the standard
system.
> It
> > > > > started because American wanted to be so different from the country
they
> > > > > declared independance from that they even came up with a new form of
> > > > > calculations. It sucks. Metric is so much easier, everything really
> should be
> > > > > metric, everyone I've spoken to pretty much agrees except the
hardcore
> > > > > patriots. I just don't care for measuring something in fractions,
> converting
> > > > > it to decimal, and then converting it to metric. It's pointless
when the
> > > > > whole world uses metric, and we are the only country who doesn't.
It
> really
> > > > > makes us and our equipment "Incompatible" in a sense. While I was
> building my
> > > > > ROV I used standard, and now that most of the equipment I want to
buy
> fits up
> > > > > with metric, I now know what I'm going to use for my sub. It just
makes
> it
> > > > > that much more easier, you know?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Support your local zonenet
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > > Sent: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:33:08 -0600
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> > > > >
> > > > > > Did you know that five out of four people usually have problems
with
> > > > > > fraction? So welcome to the club, man!
> > > > > > Carl
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Problah wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hate fractions. Metric blows away all other scales!!!!
> > > > > > > Okay lessee. I'll give you my best estimate, but you're still
going
> to
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > to dunk it. I'll just give you a max depth you can dunk it to
if it
> hold
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > 165ft
> > > > > > > .3125 inches.
> > > > > > > doing it for .28125 to account for corrosion.
> > > > > > > 18.75inches radius.
> > > > > > > 120 inches long (hopefully that is between weld points.
> > > > > > > .3 steel with a flexibility of 3E7
> > > > > > > gives you:
> > > > > > > 239 to 266 ft. Dramatic difference, don't you agree?
> > > > > > > I think I may have not removed the ten percent from the
original
> calc. I
> > > > > > > never said I was a genius. heh, but regardless the original
spec I
> gave
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > tells a different story now that you've sent me all the info. I
> always
> > > > > > > recommend take half off of that for max operating depth. It's
good
> to be
> > > > > > > safe, and 110 feet is where you start really losing light in
some
> waters
> > > > > > > anyways.
> > > > > > > Good luck with your project, and definately make sure to get
the
> saturated
> > > > > > > propane out of there, Temper it out if you have to, but that
will
> change
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > flexibility, and 75 ft might be all you can really go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Support your local zonenet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > > > > From: majerus@iowatelecom.net
> > > > > > > To: <Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:44:38 -0500
> > > > > > > Subject: N/A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The body is 37.5 inches round, 10 feet long, 5/16 thickness
and
> > > > > > > > mild steel
> > > > > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend
> greatly
> > > > > > on our own point of view."
> > > > > > -Obi-Wan Kenobi, ROTJ
> > > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Roger June
> > > > REJ and Company
> > > > rjune@fuse.net
> > > > 513-300-1189
> >
> > --
> > You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly
> > on our own point of view."
> > -Obi-Wan Kenobi, ROTJ
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