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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
THANK YOU RAY!
Thanks,
J. Barlow CET
Sr. Mechanical Designer
BJ Pipeline Inspection
Ph (403) 531-5412
Fax (403) 236-8740
Cell (403) 807-2195
Ray Keefer
<Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent by: cc:
owner-personal_submersibles Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
@psubs.org
05/09/2002 07:50 PM
Please respond to
personal_submersibles
Ok Gentlemen,
Since Standard AND Metric systems will exist together for at least my
lifetime. You are going to have to just deal with it.
Please take any further discussion offline.
Regards,
Ray
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:25:42 -0600
> From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> X-Accept-Language: en
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
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>
> Rob, perhaps people would have more respect for the environmental
> community if representatives, such as yourself, could present themselves
> without violence, threat or PROFANITY. Not all French are bad.
> Carl
>
>
> Rob Innes wrote:
> >
> > Right on Roger! Screw those French Bastards! I'm still mad about them
sinking our Greenpeace flagship; the Rainbow Warrior. They blew a metric
sized
hole in her side. Incidentally, I'm diving on the wreck when I go back to
New
Zealand in January so I can check out the damage first hand. If we claim to
be
waging a war on Terror, let's start with the French!
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > ps. Rebuttal's welcome
> >
> > rjune@fuse.net wrote:
> >
> > > OK TIME FOR YOU TO GET OF YOUR HIGH HORSE
> > >
> > > Unbelievably, the silly dispute over the metric system still exists.
Given
the particulars of the development and spread of the French system of
measurement, any individual easily realizes the total absurdity of the
metric
system.
> > >
> > > Consider how the French of the 1700's were so intent on making an
exact, standard measurement that could be replicated. They insisted on
finding a
standard in nature that would be unchanging for the base of the metric
system.
So the brilliant French scientists decided on measuring the length of an
arc of
a meridian that reaches from the North Pole to the Equator to determine the
base
of the new measuring system. The meter supposedly equals one ten-millionth
the
length of this quadrant. Yeah well, that is just plain bogus. The French
scientists made two huge mistakes: first, the meridian is neither uniform
nor
unchanging and second, they screwed up with their complicated measurements
and
were actually 30 meters off. Consequently, the French's beloved metric
system is
actually solely based on a platinum bar made to the incorrect
specifications of
their measurements of a changing item of nature. Regardless of these
glaring
errors, the French made the metric system law o!
> n !
> !
> Ap!
> > ri!
> > > l 7, 1795. Apparently, they were desperate to adopt a system of
weights
and measures. French politicians and scientists had been working for at
least
500 years by this time to organize a uniform system of measurement. The
French
General Assembly of 1302 first articulated their desired measuring
conspiracy
with their distasteful motto: "One King, one Law, one Weight, one Measure."
In
1790, Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand, a member of France's Constituent
Assembly,
succeeded in persuading the French Academy of Sciences which claimed
representatives from Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Denmark, and
Switzerland to
accept the metric system. Talleyrand wanted to do this because he believed
if
other countries helped to establish the metric system, then they would be
more
likely to adopt it themselves. Luckily, England declined the invitation and
saved us from total measuring conformity directed by the French.
> > >
> > > Although the metric system is slowly creeping into US culture, we
have
stood up to the French more than most other nations. Even though our
monetary
system is decimal and many stuffy old scientists may prefer the grams and
meters, the US luckily retains her independence from the invasive French
metric
system.
> > > >
> > > > From: "Problah" <problah@zonenet.net>
> > > > Date: 2002/09/04 Wed PM 10:57:03 EDT
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> > > >
> > > > Well it's not figuring out the fraction that's the problem, I just
divide to
> > > > give me a decimal value (still in inches thoe) It's the standard
system.
It
> > > > started because American wanted to be so different from the country
they
> > > > declared independance from that they even came up with a new form
of
> > > > calculations. It sucks. Metric is so much easier, everything really
should be
> > > > metric, everyone I've spoken to pretty much agrees except the
hardcore
> > > > patriots. I just don't care for measuring something in fractions,
converting
> > > > it to decimal, and then converting it to metric. It's pointless
when the
> > > > whole world uses metric, and we are the only country who doesn't.
It
really
> > > > makes us and our equipment "Incompatible" in a sense. While I was
building my
> > > > ROV I used standard, and now that most of the equipment I want to
buy
fits up
> > > > with metric, I now know what I'm going to use for my sub. It just
makes
it
> > > > that much more easier, you know?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Support your local zonenet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Sent: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:33:08 -0600
> > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> > > >
> > > > > Did you know that five out of four people usually have problems
with
> > > > > fraction? So welcome to the club, man!
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > > Problah wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hate fractions. Metric blows away all other scales!!!!
> > > > > > Okay lessee. I'll give you my best estimate, but you're still
going
to
> > > > want
> > > > > > to dunk it. I'll just give you a max depth you can dunk it to
if it
hold
> > > > at
> > > > > > 165ft
> > > > > > .3125 inches.
> > > > > > doing it for .28125 to account for corrosion.
> > > > > > 18.75inches radius.
> > > > > > 120 inches long (hopefully that is between weld points.
> > > > > > .3 steel with a flexibility of 3E7
> > > > > > gives you:
> > > > > > 239 to 266 ft. Dramatic difference, don't you agree?
> > > > > > I think I may have not removed the ten percent from the
original
calc. I
> > > > > > never said I was a genius. heh, but regardless the original
spec I
gave
> > > > you
> > > > > > tells a different story now that you've sent me all the info. I
always
> > > > > > recommend take half off of that for max operating depth. It's
good
to be
> > > > > > safe, and 110 feet is where you start really losing light in
some
waters
> > > > > > anyways.
> > > > > > Good luck with your project, and definately make sure to get
the
saturated
> > > > > > propane out of there, Temper it out if you have to, but that
will
change
> > > > your
> > > > > > flexibility, and 75 ft might be all you can really go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Support your local zonenet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > > > From: majerus@iowatelecom.net
> > > > > > To: <Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:44:38 -0500
> > > > > > Subject: N/A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The body is 37.5 inches round, 10 feet long, 5/16 thickness
and
> > > > > > > mild steel
> > > > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend
greatly
> > > > > on our own point of view."
> > > > > -Obi-Wan Kenobi, ROTJ
> > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Roger June
> > > REJ and Company
> > > rjune@fuse.net
> > > 513-300-1189
>
> --
> You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly
> on our own point of view."
> -Obi-Wan Kenobi, ROTJ