Re: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A

["Adam and Teresa Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>]

>From a scientific or engineering standpoint the English and metric systems
are simply a unit, the accuracy is up to the individual using the unit. Some
people prefer the use of one unit over another usually because that is the
system they have become most familiar with. If you want to discuss which
system is more simplistic, then leave out the crap concerning prejudices our
fathers and grandfathers had stemming from wars and such.
And Roger, if you want to use the printed opinions of others at least
reference the site.

Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: <rjune@fuse.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A


> OK TIME FOR YOU TO GET OF YOUR HIGH HORSE
>
> Unbelievably, the silly dispute over the metric system still exists. Given
the particulars of the development and spread of the French system of
measurement, any individual easily realizes the total absurdity of the
metric system.
>
>     Consider how the French of the 1700's were so intent on making an
exact, standard measurement that could be replicated. They insisted on
finding a standard in nature that would be unchanging for the base of the
metric system. So the brilliant French scientists decided on measuring the
length of an arc of a meridian that reaches from the North Pole to the
Equator to determine the base of the new measuring system. The meter
supposedly equals one ten-millionth the length of this quadrant. Yeah well,
that is just plain bogus. The French scientists made two huge mistakes:
first, the meridian is neither uniform nor unchanging and second, they
screwed up with their complicated measurements and were actually 30 meters
off. Consequently, the French's beloved metric system is actually solely
based on a platinum bar made to the incorrect specifications of their
measurements of a changing item of nature. Regardless of these glaring
errors, the French made the metric system law on Apri!
> l 7, 1795. Apparently, they were desperate to adopt a system of weights
and measures. French politicians and scientists had been working for at
least 500 years by this time to organize a uniform system of measurement.
The French General Assembly of 1302 first articulated their desired
measuring conspiracy with their distasteful motto: "One King, one Law, one
Weight, one Measure." In 1790, Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand, a member of
France's Constituent Assembly, succeeded in persuading the French Academy of
Sciences which claimed representatives from Spain, Italy, the Netherlands,
Denmark, and Switzerland to accept the metric system. Talleyrand wanted to
do this because he believed if other countries helped to establish the
metric system, then they would be more likely to adopt it themselves.
Luckily, England declined the invitation and saved us from total measuring
conformity directed by the French.
>
>     Although the metric system is slowly creeping into US culture, we have
stood up to the French more than most other nations. Even though our
monetary system is decimal and many stuffy old scientists may prefer the
grams and meters, the US luckily retains her independence from the invasive
French metric system.
> >
> > From: "Problah" <problah@zonenet.net>
> > Date: 2002/09/04 Wed PM 10:57:03 EDT
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> >
> > Well it's not figuring out the fraction that's the problem, I just
divide to
> > give me a decimal value (still in inches thoe) It's the standard system.
It
> > started because American wanted to be so different from the country they
> > declared independance from that they even came up with a new form of
> > calculations. It sucks. Metric is so much easier, everything really
should be
> > metric, everyone I've spoken to pretty much agrees except the hardcore
> > patriots. I just don't care for measuring something in fractions,
converting
> > it to decimal, and then converting it to metric. It's pointless when the
> > whole world uses metric, and we are the only country who doesn't. It
really
> > makes us and our equipment "Incompatible" in a sense. While I was
building my
> > ROV I used standard, and now that most of the equipment I want to buy
fits up
> > with metric, I now know what I'm going to use for my sub. It just makes
it
> > that much more easier, you know?
> >
> >
> > Support your local zonenet
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > Sent: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:33:08 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: N/A
> >
> > > Did you know that five out of four people usually have problems with
> > > fraction?  So welcome to the club, man!
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > Problah wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I hate fractions. Metric blows away all other scales!!!!
> > > > Okay lessee. I'll give you my best estimate, but you're still going
to
> > want
> > > > to dunk it. I'll just give you a max depth you can dunk it to if it
hold
> > at
> > > > 165ft
> > > > .3125 inches.
> > > > doing it for .28125 to account for corrosion.
> > > > 18.75inches radius.
> > > > 120 inches long (hopefully that is between weld points.
> > > > .3 steel with a flexibility of 3E7
> > > > gives you:
> > > > 239 to 266 ft. Dramatic difference, don't you agree?
> > > > I think I may have not removed the ten percent from the original
calc. I
> > > > never said I was a genius. heh, but regardless the original spec I
gave
> > you
> > > > tells a different story now that you've sent me all the info. I
always
> > > > recommend take half off of that for max operating depth. It's good
to be
> > > > safe, and 110 feet is where you start really losing light in some
waters
> > > > anyways.
> > > > Good luck with your project, and definately make sure to get the
saturated
> > > > propane out of there, Temper it out if you have to, but that will
change
> > your
> > > > flexibility, and 75 ft might be all you can really go.
> > > >
> > > > Support your local zonenet
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > From: majerus@iowatelecom.net
> > > > To: <Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org>
> > > > Sent: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:44:38 -0500
> > > > Subject: N/A
> > > >
> > > > > The body is 37.5 inches round, 10 feet long, 5/16 thickness and
> > > > > mild steel
> > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > >
> > > --
> > > You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend
greatly
> > > on our own point of view."
> > > -Obi-Wan Kenobi, ROTJ
> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> >
> >
>
> Roger June
> REJ and Company
> rjune@fuse.net
> 513-300-1189