Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] U Boats- Carsten

[Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>]

My undestanding is that them bunkers out did anything the Allied forces
had.  The Nazi empire had some great technology in their hands.  I would
love to see some of their stuff.
Carl


Mark Steed wrote:
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> Carsten-What a story! I would give anything to see the bunkers there in Germany. To actually dive in them would be an experience to dream about. Thanks for the updates and further history on them. As I read the book I mentioned, I'll probably have more questions. Thanks again and glad you are above the floodwaters. My very best, Mark Steed
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> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: MerlinSub@t-online.de (Carsten Standfuss)
> Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Date:  Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:54:51 +0200
> 
> >Hi Mark..
> >
> >Yes the 3 XXI at Elbe II in Hamburg are the subs I was on and in at the
> >mid 90ies. Today they are burried under many feets of sand to protect
> >playing children etc. I was also at Killian the shelter at Kiel - also
> >two subs there burried under the destroyed pen and water
> >and mud. The last diver has seen this subs was in the 70ies I think.
> >Just 5 minutes from here on the river Weser direction Nord ist he big
> >pen Valentin at Farge - a massproduction pen for XXI units. Was never
> >operable and the war stops before they complete him. Today they have a
> >theater show inside "Die letzten Tage der Menschheit" (The last days of
> >the humans). Its a good place for this show..
> >There is another production-repair pen just 5 minutes south on the river
> >which has now a parking lot on top - this pen looks still operable - and
> >maybe i will sail in with CSSX in a couple of years.
> >I am pretty shure the Valentin pen (400 x 400 m or 1312 x 1312 feet)
> >will stay longer than the pyramids with his 7 m (23 feet) strong
> >concret walls ..
> >
> >The floods water here were in southern germany - and I live in northern
> >germany - no problem here - but my neighbourhoods stop laughing about
> >the guy building his own submarine :-)
> >
> >welcome back, Carsten
> >
> >
> >Mark Steed schrieb:
> >>
> >> Greetings all-Picked up a new book over the weekend and Carsten, you came to mind immediately. "Hitler's U Boat Bases" by Jak P. Mallmann Showel, U.S. Naval Institute, copyr.2002, ISBN:1-55750-396-6, is a great reference and study of the enormous bunkers built for the Kriegsmarine during WW2. Lots of photos during the war and what they look like today. Many new ones I have never seen before. Carsten, they have photos and a short story of the Elbe II bunker in Germany where three Type XXI boats are are still underneath. Are these the ones you have dived on? The author, Showel, is the son of a Kriegsmarine U Boat man killed in 1944 during the Battle of the Atlantic. Anyone interested in submarine history will enjoy this one. Best regards to all. Carsten, I truly hope the flood waters in Germany have not gotten anywhere near you and yours.      Mark Steed
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