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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] U Boats- Carsten



Hi Mark.. 

Yes the 3 XXI at Elbe II in Hamburg are the subs I was on and in at the
mid 90ies. Today they are burried under many feets of sand to protect
playing children etc. I was also at Killian the shelter at Kiel - also
two subs there burried under the destroyed pen and water
and mud. The last diver has seen this subs was in the 70ies I think. 
Just 5 minutes from here on the river Weser direction Nord ist he big
pen Valentin at Farge - a massproduction pen for XXI units. Was never
operable and the war stops before they complete him. Today they have a
theater show inside "Die letzten Tage der Menschheit" (The last days of
the humans). Its a good place for this show..
There is another production-repair pen just 5 minutes south on the river
which has now a parking lot on top - this pen looks still operable - and
maybe i will sail in with CSSX in a couple of years. 
I am pretty shure the Valentin pen (400 x 400 m or 1312 x 1312 feet)
will stay longer than the pyramids with his 7 m (23 feet) strong 
concret walls .. 

The floods water here were in southern germany - and I live in northern
germany - no problem here - but my neighbourhoods stop laughing about
the guy building his own submarine :-)

welcome back, Carsten


Mark Steed schrieb:
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> Greetings all-Picked up a new book over the weekend and Carsten, you came to mind immediately. "Hitler's U Boat Bases" by Jak P. Mallmann Showel, U.S. Naval Institute, copyr.2002, ISBN:1-55750-396-6, is a great reference and study of the enormous bunkers built for the Kriegsmarine during WW2. Lots of photos during the war and what they look like today. Many new ones I have never seen before. Carsten, they have photos and a short story of the Elbe II bunker in Germany where three Type XXI boats are are still underneath. Are these the ones you have dived on? The author, Showel, is the son of a Kriegsmarine U Boat man killed in 1944 during the Battle of the Atlantic. Anyone interested in submarine history will enjoy this one. Best regards to all. Carsten, I truly hope the flood waters in Germany have not gotten anywhere near you and yours.      Mark Steed
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