Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] H2O2 combustion chamber

["Herve" <caribsub@coqui.net>]

Pete, sorry , i did not mean to insult you, but to me peroxyde is rocket
making, not subs you are dealing basically with an explosive and a very
corrosive material.
peroxyde was a direct cause of multiple deaths in subs.
so i dont understand why the trouble when the futur in mini subs is
somewhere else.
murphy' law : if something bad can happen it will!!
Right now the most advanced studies by navies in mini subs propulsion are on
how to produce  or store O2  in large amount in a mini sub so it can feed
fuel cells.
it is safe, very powerfull , expensive though but probalbly the next step in
mini subs not powered by a nuclear reactor.
peroxyde should be limited to unmanned vehicles like torpedoes which have
severe power choice requirements anyways
Herve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete suds" <subs_n_suds@hotmail.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] H2O2 combustion chamber


> Thanks for the support guys. Just a few things:
> I am not inventing a new concept, this technology actually goes back to
the
> early 1940s, and has been used by NASA and amateurs since then. The list
is
> too numerous to include here.
>
> Of all the reaction chambers using the DeLaval nozzle, this is by far the
> safest. Believe me, I have been researching new propulsion devices for
many
> years and this is one of the better concepts.
> There is far too much information to include in a message. I will develop
a
> white paper to include calcs, stoichiometry, theory, flow diagrams, etc.
> I will provide pictures of my nozzle.
>
> Lessons learned based on other failures will be incorporated in the
design.
>
> I built an underwater DPV (20 years ago), and have designed many devises,
> both professionally and personally. I always over design for safety. I
> always test designs when high pressures or temperatures are involved.
>
> I welcome comments, both good and bad. If you feel something is unsafe,
> PLEASE let me know, just don't insult me. Thanks again for the input.
> Suds
>
>
> >From: "Eliezer Rodriguez" <eliezer_rodriguez@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] H2O2 combustion chamber
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:20:33 +0000
> >
> >Hey guys,
> >
> >I wonder where what would happen if Benjamin Franklin didn't made his
kite
> >and key experiment on a thunderstorm because it sounded dangerous. True,
> >you could easily get killed but, remmember that if he wouldn't
electricity
> >wouldn't be around and neither batteries nor subs.
> >
> >Obviously nobody wants to get killed, but if stop trying new ways to do
> >things because of fear then your life will be boring as hell. Research
and
> >then test your ideas with caution maybe you will be in history books in a
> >couple decades, who knows.
> >
> >
> >Eliezer Rodriguez
> >"The only thing in life to fear is fear itself."
> >
> >
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