----- Original Message -----
From:
Doc
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reply to
SUBSAFE
Education is just the combination of common sense, curiosity and
experience, I've always
psyched myself into near neurosis going over and
over everything that could possibly
go wrong and what I would need to do
in a worst case situation to come home safely.
Since I'm still here
writing this, I'd have to say it's worked for me so far.
By the way, Doc is just a nickname, I have no formal degrees, never needed
one, but I do
have an insatiable curiosity and appetite for adventure and
discovery that I'll bet I share with
most of you guys.
Never underestimate what you can do.
Doc
Bob Teufel wrote:
Hi Graham, Please don't be offended by my opinion of SUBSAFE. I respect anyone with the drive to accomplish something special, and I believe you understand many of the challenges we face when taking on a project like a PSUB. I don't know anything about you or your skills, I was only speaking for myself. I'm not an engineer. And, at the risk of sounding uneducated, I don't even have an undergraduate degree. What I do have is a background in mechanical systems, i.e. cars, automatic doors, and fine-machined industrial parts. I find myself lacking in the areas of electronics theory and the ability to calculate the things necessary to even begin a sub project, so, I was just commenting about where I would like to be when I attempt my first 1 atmosphere sub, or any sub for that matter. Best Regards, Bob Teufel P.S. Pneumatics is like Pneumonia, only with a lot more pressure :)pneu·mat·ics Pronunciation Key (n-m
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ks, ny
n. (used with a sing. verb)
- The study of the mechanical properties of air and other gases.
----- Original Message -----From: Graham KSent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 1:37 AMSubject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reply to SUBSAFEI think that simply a 6th grade Education is sufficient for building a 2 million dollar deep-diving sub..Regards,Graham KuberskiP.S. What is pneumatics? Is that like pneumonia? :)-----Original Message-----Hi Pat and all! I totally agree with Pat when he says that we beginners (And I fully admit that I am one) shoud not begin with a Deep-Diving Sub as a first project. I am a Christian, which means that I belive I know where I am going when this life is over, but, I'd like to go there when it's time and even have a little fun along the way. I'd rather not speed up the process by attempting dreams that are beyond my capability. One wise person I knew once told me that the "I Know what I Know", and the "I Know What I don't Know," aren't a problem. It's the "I Don't Know What I Don't Know," that can get you in big trouble. When I first discovered PSUBS.ORG I immediately designed a 6 person 37 foot sub and was thinking that I would like to figure out how to get it to about 400 meters fsw. Now, after reading and listening to you guys, I'd be happy to construct an ambient pressure sub for use in shallow lakes as a first project, and that only after I re-learn everything I once knew about scuba-diving and spend much more time listening-reseaching and learning. Maybe we could all come up with a basic-skills/knowledge recommendation for those who find themselves desiring to do what so many of you veterans have done before. Without some knowledge of Physics, Mathmatics, Electronics, Plumbing, Pneumatics, Hydraulics, and materials, it would seem like a fools quest to go out and try to begin at the top. For What it's Worth, Bob Teufel
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Bob Teufel
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:39 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reply to SUBSAFE
