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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reply to SUBSAFE
Bob,
 
I 
think your experience with the world of submersibles is similar to mine. I have 
always liked them them from an early age, however  I didn't even realize people 
built them for private use until I stumbled across a web page one day. 
 
Like 
you I immediately designed by own sub which would revolutionise the world of 
private submersibles, it would be much cheaper and twice as efficient as any 
other deign. However, as I begun to expand my "fag packet" blue print I began to 
realise just why people designed their craft the way they 
did!
 
By the 
very nature of this area of engineering it is very much a DIY enterprise. 
Needles to say my "ultimate design" has yet to slip gracefully into the water 
(or get off the drawing board in the near future!).
 
As far 
as I am concerned the process of teaching myself the ins and outs of submarine 
design and operation is as much fun as the prospect of finally being confident 
enough to go and blow my "hard earned" on a mountain of 
steel.
 
This 
discussion group is a great resource, both for inspiration and advise. I have 
been a silent member for some time now, just chipping in with the odd page of 
questions here and there! I have learnt a lot in a short time. however I don't 
think you can ever learn "enough" in this area. 
 
My 
(much) more modest design is on hold at present until I receive a copy of 
the Busby book which will be a big help. One day I hope to join the list of 
people who have put up examples of their designs to ask for comments / 
suggestions etc.
 
until 
this happy day I am more than happy to keep reworking my ideas and design based 
on tips and suggestions from you guys. Words like implosion and 
catastrophic failure send a cold shiver down my spine! 
 
Well 
that's my bit! As you can gather from this I am on the lower rungs of the ladder 
but hopefully by drawing on the expertise of other people "higher up" I can help 
myself to learn more rather than be told what to do, there is a big 
difference!
 
Harry
 
PS I 
am glad I didn't sell my old school physics books!
 
[Harry 
Spillett]  -----Original Message-----
From: 
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Bob 
Teufel
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 4:39 AM
To: 
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reply to 
SUBSAFE
  Hi Pat and all!
   
  I totally agree with Pat when he 
  says that we beginners (And I fully admit that I am one) shoud not begin 
  with a Deep-Diving Sub as a first project.
   
  I am a Christian, which means that 
  I belive I know where I am going when this life is over, but, I'd like to go 
  there when it's time and even have a little fun along the way.  I'd 
  rather not speed up the process by attempting dreams that are beyond my 
  capability.  One wise person 
  I knew once told me that the "I Know what I Know", and the "I Know What I 
  don't Know," aren't a problem.  It's the "I Don't Know What I Don't 
  Know," that can get you in big trouble.
   
  When I first discovered PSUBS.ORG I 
  immediately designed a 6 person 37 foot sub and was thinking that I would like 
  to figure out how to get it to about 400 meters fsw.  Now, after reading 
  and listening to you guys, I'd be happy to construct an ambient pressure sub 
  for use in shallow lakes as a first project, and that only after I re-learn 
  everything I once knew about scuba-diving and spend much more time 
  listening-reseaching and learning.
   
  Maybe we could all come up with a 
  basic-skills/knowledge recommendation for those who find themselves desiring 
  to do what so many of you veterans have done before.
   
  Without some knowledge of Physics, 
  Mathmatics, Electronics, Plumbing, Pneumatics, Hydraulics, and materials, it 
  would seem like a fools quest to go out and try to begin at the 
  top.
   
  For What it's Worth,
   
  Bob 
Teufel